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To: PieterCasparzen
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What do you have against Ukrainians, anyway?

You are coming across more & more like a Russian, since you keep pushing the Russian Putin Party talking points.

Does it ever occur to you the Ukrainians may have some real & actual beefs with the latest Admin there? The man overthrew the constitution that was just put in place some years previous, about as soon as he got into office.

Soros, soros, soros. It's not that simple.

But are you --THAT simple minded?

18 posted on 02/19/2014 5:20:20 PM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

Why would have have something against Ukrainians if I don’t support the idea of a CIA/State Dept/Soros-lead coup taking over the country ?

Did I have something against Egyptians when I opposed the installation of the Western operative Morsi as their ruler ?

I’m not worried about Putin and Russia “overpowering” the US; if they do things right, they’ll be moving towards peaceful prosperity. If they waste money on too much military spending and if they stand in the way of individual citizens’ prosperity, they will continue to struggle and have problems of their own, and their problems will get worse and worse.

International banking DOES do business with Russia; they did with the USSR. Did you know Ford built a plant in Gorky under Stalin ? During the “heady days” of the “Cold War”, when the establishment was trying to make Americans wet themselves with fear, a high-level Soviet diplomat would have dinner at W. Averell Harriman’s house ? Don’t that sound a little funky ? Why was one of our biggest capitalist / senior government confidant entertaining “the enemy” ? Perhaps the big red scare was more about government spending gone wild and using the US to accomplish the aims of international financial elites.

If the US government today (which I’m more concerned with, since I’m an American and my ancestors have been here since the 1600’s) CONTINUES to more and more stand in the way of individual citizens’ prosperity - we will be heading the way of socialism like the UK and Europe. That is far and away THE most significant NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE for America. America is moving towards a totalitarian police state with the NSA spying - and it still does not stop. Billions are spent on spying on Americans.

We have beefs with OUR administration here in America, with that Obama dude, the current occupant.

But Soros/CIA/State Dept does not try to “topple” the Obama administration. Hmmm... I wonder why.

Because the financial elites run America. The elites want to keep consolidating, combining banking systems, combining nations into groups of nations, “freeing up” international trade so THEY can profit, while they encourage countries like China to buy food and raw materials from the US, which has the effect of bidding up market prices of commodities, and export the work to them and third-world countries - which they know is slowly impoverishing Americans.

I posted above Soros activities in Ukraine dating from 2005 - 2013. THAT is from THEIR website. That’s what they are publicly acknowledging.

Please read the titles carefully - they are basically all about pushing Ukraine into the EU.

Here’s an informative video of Antony Sutton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVWXmZB1wc


21 posted on 02/19/2014 6:05:02 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: BlueDragon

It just so happens that this time the Putin talking points are correct.

Why ? How did this happen ? Doesn’t Putin always lie ?

Well, when you have blatantly open operations going on, people tend to find out.

If there actually IS Western involvement, and much of it is overt, not covert, it’s not surprise that Putin then points this out.

Just like the Syrian government keeps pointing out.

And there is plenty of public information available that points to funding in that one coming through Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

And it is well known that these are two “mini-me” satellite regimes of the US.

See, in the old days, if the US did a revolution in a Banana Republic, they at least went to great lengths to hide it - and even make sure all the government school textbooks taught the children the cover story.

Now, as evidenced by Victoria Nuland’s remark, and the entire Obama administration... nobody in government cares really much about appearances.

What difference does it make, you know ?


23 posted on 02/19/2014 6:12:07 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: BlueDragon

Just think, when America used to do assassinations, it was actually kept a secret.

Today, video is released to the public, and it’s heralded by the government. We’re told it was out of concerns for our “national security”. The guy had to be eliminated. He posed an existential threat to the United States of America.


26 posted on 02/19/2014 6:23:16 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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