Posted on 02/04/2014 5:40:41 AM PST by Travis McGee
You have to concede one point. With 60 million American’s killed in the womb because one Supreme Court justice found murder to be a privacy issue, the USA will take its place as one of the worst killers of innocent citizens in history.
A liberal friend told my husband, when he mentioned the millions of people who were murdered in the name of communism - Communism has never been implemented properly.
You mean in the future people will give up their freedom, their rights and all the worldy posessions willingly and peacfully all in the name of communism??? The big problem communism has is keeping the communication of the opposition quiet. Even tougher to do now. North Korea imprisons and kills daily in order to remain communist.
It would seem that the fall of the Iron Curtain was a Phyrric victory for the West. We thought we were reintroducing (and in some cases, introducing for the first time) freedom in those parts of the world, but in actuality we were releasing the legacy of Lenin and Stalin from its cage.
Articles of this nature come with a built in fatal flaw.
The flaw is in presenting the notion that capitalism is contrary to communism. Capitalism is present in all forms of government. The difference worthy of comparison is in discovering who owns and controls the capital under the different forms of government.
Nations with Communist governments do not allow private ownership or control of capital.
Americas constitutionally guaranteed Republican form of government protects private ownership of capital.
There are four aspects of ownership necessary for the ownership of property to be full and complete. These four are title, control, use, and the ability to dispose of what a person owns.
In a free market economy, these aspects are unrestrained so long as the owner does not infringe on the legitimate rights and claims of others. True ownership of property and freedom go hand in hand. They always have.
Now lets compare the two systems of capitalism, monopolistic state-controlled capitalism and competitive free enterprise capitalism.
Private ownership and control of capital exist in the competitive free enterprise system. In the monopolistic system, private or state title of ownership to the capital exists but more importantly, the state or the elite few who control the state control all the capital.
Today’s commie intellectual believes (quite falsely) that they themselves are soooo much smarter and wiser than those who have gone before (self-aggrandizing ego trip). They think communism and socialism have only failed because the right people weren’t in charge. Of course, they believe themselves to be “the right people” to lead us poor slobs. They honestly think they know what’s best for everyone. I know, laughable right? It would be knee-slapping funny if they weren’t actually serious about that. They think only they know best.
So did the communist before them. Today’s communist will behave exactly like yesterday’s communist if given the chance. They have to kill and oppress other-wise the strong and enterprising will rise up and kill communism again.
Socialism, fascism and communism are based on the 7 deadly sins.
I suppose he refers to the National Socialist German Workers Party.
I also recommend Gulag by Anne Applebaum. Not worthy for a Pulitzer, and the author did little to amplify the evil of the Gulag system. It does show the utter destruction of the prisoners' souls and humanity.
Add to the reading list MAO, The Unknown Story by Jung Chang. It goes into great detail, not only about Mao's moral depravity, but also his willingness to sacrifice as many Chinese as it took for him to maintain power.
The problem with this Salon author is that in his opinion he excuses all examples of communism as being untrue to Marx, and condemns every problem with capitalism in the next breath. The systems under which we live will never be pure and are subject to the forces of human nature. It takes an exceeding poor understanding of human nature to think that communism will every work, because collectivism doesn't reward hard work. Collectivism rewards just enough work to not get noticed.
“They believe communism and socialism have failed repeatedly (100% failure rate at making happy, prosperous societies) due to mistakes made by the people trying it.”
If that’s what they believe, they believe a theory about society that has no real people on it. Sounds like the old joke about the physicist making a cow produce more milk: “first, we assume a spherical cow”
Sooooo, it wasn’t communism that killed 110 million people and continues to enslave and impoverish them in Cuba?
Wow, I’m so relieved. Let’s be communists then, and be happy.
ahhh, yes....the old “we can do Communism SMARTER!” argument.
Travis, you've got kids. Are they in the public schools? Even if they're in a private school, the indoctrination monster is growing larger in Florida and it's new name is COMMON CORE CURRICULUM. As an educator myself these last 25 years, I have seen the visages of the monster growing on the horizon. I have fought this agenda for decades and I'm thinking I might retire before it takes hold, anyway. Because this is the first of only a few steps to complete indoctrination mode: Make no mistake, even the liberal educators admit that our profession is about to disappear in favor of the "virtual classroom." The only human input will come from "moderators" to watch student behavior and issue bathroom passes and maybe call for a tech to fix computer glitches. This is how you complete the final indoctrination of youth. This is how freedom dies starting with the first generation of virtual education and that is happening now. Right freaking now! It's only in the introductory phases, but already most of the upper eschelon learners, the gifted and advanced placement high school kids are getting their content online in Florida classrooms, at least in the larger counties like my home of Miami-Dade. The smart ones are the first to fall. They are the "movers & shakers" of tomorrow.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marxism?show=0&t=1305753451
Marxism: the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx; especially : a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism?show=0&t=1391526939
Socialism: 3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.
They always try to redefine terms; don’t let em.
The more faithfully communism is implemented, the more brutal and tyrannical it becomes. This is because communal-ism is architected on lies, coveting and theft, which are three of the Ten Commandments that system violates by its very nature.
Capitalism is the system of free (voluntary and peaceful) exchange. The closer to a fully free market a system becomes, the more prosperous all participants will become. Any failures of capitalism are the failures of individuals to adhere to the moral framework that allows capitalism to thrive.
Anyone who defends communal-isms in any form is either evil or foolish.
The most recent research says that 147 million died by the hand of socialism.
I could solve the problem for Ms. Myerson with one question.
Are you willing to give up most of your salary so that the people serving you coffee and cleaning the toilets get the same paycheck you do?
The stupid is strong with this one, and his logic-fu is astonishingly weak.
Half the points are not even about communism, and the bulk of the content of the remaining points amount to “you suck too!” Writing a rebuttal would require discerning anything relevant to rebut; responding to “2+2=5 because oranges are orange” doesn’t work.
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