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To: JRandomFreeper
The Delegates sent to the convention in 1787 ignored the Articles of Confederation, which were then in effect, and by its very wording was forbidden to be altered but by a unanimous consent of the States. Instead of following the Articles of Confederation, they arbitrarily decided that the new constitution and new government they created would become effective if a mere nine States ratified what they did.

JWK

42 posted on 01/23/2014 6:33:50 PM PST by JOHN W K
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To: JOHN W K
That's not an Article 5 convention.

You need to do some research somewhere besides the conspiracy theory side of the internet.

/johnny

43 posted on 01/23/2014 6:36:59 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JOHN W K
The confederation congress had no authority over the states. It could suggest anything, but enforce nothing.

The confederation had served its purpose. Once the revolutionary war was won, the confederation began to dissolve. How? The states simply stopped showing up in congress. The states had obeyed the Articles when it suited their individual purposes. Paying taxes so that our war debts could be paid was not one of them.

BTW, the Articles were ratified by the state legislatures and as such, the Articles were not regarded as a higher authority. The states viewed them as they would any law, and regularly passed laws that contravened the Articles.

The Framers requested the constitution be ratified by higher authority, the people.

The Framers could not and did not impose anything. Congress did not have to forward the constitution to the states. The states did not have to arrange elections for ratifying convention delegates, and the delegates did not have to ratify.

At any point, the congress or states or the people's reps could have rejected the constitution. They didn't, and that was a good thing.

52 posted on 01/24/2014 2:29:25 AM PST by Jacquerie (Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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