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Pat Roberts Rolls Out Worst Survey Ever (Kansas)
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Posted on 01/23/2014 9:56:12 AM PST by cotton1706
Pat Roberts is up for re-election against a KS doctor with lose ties to the president trying to capitalize on his 15 minutes of fame. Pat Roberts, while not a vocal leader, has been a consistent vote for conservative principles in the Senate.
His opponent, Milton Wolf, is running on a platform that Roberts has had his shot and failed to move the conservative movement forward. He has a valid point. Should Kansas conservatives continue to give Pat Roberts their vote even though they continue to lose ground on the national level or is it time to give someone else a try?
Roberts says he should be sent back to DC. To show Kansans he agrees with their positions he has created on online survey to find out where they stand on national issues. Unfortunately, the carefully worded survey is so vague and at the same time restrictive that no valid results can be garnered from it. In fact, it appears to be intentionally designed so that Roberts can claim any position on almost any issue.
Let's take a look: Do you believe that the Second Amendment guarantees the right of every law-abiding citizen to own firearms? At first glance, the answer seems obvious, of course we support the second amendment as it was written. But do Kansans support mentally deranged citizens who may not have committed a crime owning a gun? I am not so sure. Do you support the entire repeal of Obamacare, or a more piecemeal approach?
A seemingly straight forward question, of course Kansans want Obamacare repealed. It's been a complete and utter disaster that has resulted in the loss of more than 6 million insurance plans and counting. But then Roberts follows up with this question:
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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: elections; johnsoncounty; kansas; kevinyoder; ks; miltonwolf; patroberts; sambrownback
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To: cotton1706
Whether or not one believes Pat Roberts should be sent back to DC to represent KS in the Senate, might be open for a discussion; whether Milton Wolf is ready to assume the spot isn't open for discussion - he is NOT!
He has hidden his political apathy when coming out of the gate as "Obama's cousin, a doctor, disputes the greatness of Obamacare!"
Wolf had no inkling that he was even related to Obama until his mom looked into it and then he proceeded to make hay out of this happenstance, which, in my opinion, doesn't make him my ideal conservative (because he is NOT) candidate!
Thanks but no thanks.
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posted on
01/23/2014 10:07:38 AM PST
by
zerosix
(Native Sunflower)
To: cotton1706
Was there some reason not to post the whole blog?
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posted on
01/23/2014 11:14:23 AM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: SoConPubbie
“Was there some reason not to post the whole blog?”
Only 300 words are allowed.
To: cotton1706
Pat Roberts Rolls Out Worst Survey Ever
Pat Roberts is up for re-election against a KS doctor with lose ties to the president trying to capitalize on his 15 minutes of fame. Pat Roberts, while not a vocal leader, has been a consistent vote for conservative principles in the Senate.
His opponent, Milton Wolf, is running on a platform that Roberts has had his shot and failed to move the conservative movement forward. He has a valid point. Should Kansas conservatives continue to give Pat Roberts their vote even though they continue to lose ground on the national level or is it time to give someone else a try?
Roberts says he should be sent back to DC. To show Kansans he agrees with their positions he has created on online survey to find out where they stand on national issues. Unfortunately, the carefully worded survey is so vague and at the same time restrictive that no valid results can be garnered from it. In fact, it appears to be intentionally designed so that Roberts can claim any position on almost any issue.
Let's take a look:
- Do you believe that the Second Amendment guarantees the right of every law-abiding citizen to own firearms?
At first glance, the answer seems obvious, of course we support the second amendment as it was written. But do Kansans support mentally deranged citizens who may not have committed a crime owning a gun? I am not so sure.
- Do you support the entire repeal of Obamacare, or a more piecemeal approach?
A seemingly straight forward question, of course Kansans want Obamacare repealed. It's been a complete and utter disaster that has resulted in the loss of more than 6 million insurance plans and counting. But then Roberts follows up with this question:
- Do you believe that the President should be forced to make good on his promises that you could keep your plan if you liked it and you could keep your doctor if you chose to?
How is one supposed to answer that? Yes we think people should be able to keep their plan. No, we do not want Obama or anyone us telling us which plans we can have, if we want any at all.
How about this one?
- The President continues to push for immigration reform. Are you 100% behind the Republican efforts in Congress to stop amnesty?
Do Kansans support "immigration reform" that grants amnesty to 15+ million illegal aliens and legalize the importation of a million more unskilled, third-world immigrants to compete with the 92 million out-of-work Americans for the few jobs we have available? Not just 'no', "Hell No!' But do we support "100%" the Republicans efforts to block amnesty?
What efforts? We've seen the Gang of 8 led by dupes McCain and Rubio vote in favor of amnesty in the Senate. We have heard House leadership say they plan to sneak through amnesty in a variety of ways post primary season. We have even heard the US Chamber of Commerce declare war on Tea Party and conservative candidates in order to get amnesty and suicidal increases to mass immigration passed.
- Is it necessary to ensure that our borders are secure before we determine the next step (s) for immigration reform?
Yes, but what is this next step, amnesty and increases to mass immigration? I think most Kansans are willing to talk about what to do about the illegal aliens already here after the border is sealed, but if any new immigration plan comes forward that doesn't put America's interests first, by protecting the American labor market and not importing thrid-world radicals from countries that are hot beds for radical Muslim terrorists, ala the Boston marathon bombers, than the "next step" will be met with just as much opposition.
- Should the government provide more, less or about the same amount of money to support alternative energy?
Less, like none at all. The government should not be picking winners and losers when it comes to business. The free market will drive alternate energies when the technology reaches a point that the market will accept it. Until then we are throwing good money after bad. This goes for all industries, not just alternate energy. Crony capitalism must stop. But Roberts didn't ask us that question. Fortunately, since it is an election year, Kansans will get a chance to ask him exactly what he believes. I hear rumors Senator Roberts will be making an appearance at the Olathe Republican Party meeting on January 23rd.
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posted on
01/23/2014 11:15:18 AM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: cotton1706
It the theKansasCitian in the “Must Excerpt” list?
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posted on
01/23/2014 11:19:38 AM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: cotton1706
While Roberts may have a challenger that talks more “Tea Party” than Roberts, how will that unknown perform. We saw with Rubio that a candidate can run one way and perform another.
Roberts is a know effective conservative. While not perfect in everything, he is certainly effective, forcefull and has true impact across the aisle in those conservative aspects he champions. He is a solid 90 cents on the dollar.
I don’t want an unknown suppossed check for a dollar that hasn’t been cashed in trade for a sure 90 cents.
While I don’t live in Kansas anymore, I did for decades and still have a home neighboring Roberts state. We have a lot of Lindsey Grahamn types out there that need effort in their challenge, we need to work on those races.
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posted on
01/23/2014 11:25:00 AM PST
by
KC Burke
(Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
To: zerosix
Milton is a friend and a conservative and has my 100% support. He has used the Obama relationship only as a gimmick to get attention for his truly conservative positions, and Roberts on general principle should step down as he’s been there long enough. Time for new blood.
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posted on
01/23/2014 11:40:31 AM PST
by
LS
('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
To: KC Burke
“Roberts is a know effective conservative. While not perfect in everything, he is certainly effective, forcefull and has true impact across the aisle in those conservative aspects he champions. He is a solid 90 cents on the dollar.”
Roberts (KS) - 08/05/14 - 78% (Average) - 89% (Heritage) - 55% (CFG) - 72% (ACU) - 94% (FreedomWorks)
With a 78% conservative average, I would argue that he’s been working TOO MUCH across the aisle.
Roberts replaced either Dole or Kassebaum, can’t remember. So he’s been there since either ‘96 or ‘97. Time to go!
Eighteen years and his conservative rating is trending downward. We don’t need to keep these people around until THEY decide to retire just because we don’t know enough about the other guy. That’s how we end up with the likes of Ted Stevens, Frank Murkowski, Thad Cochran, Orrin Hatch, Richard Lugar, William Roth, John Warner, Arlen Specter, Mitch McConnell, etc.
To: SoConPubbie
Who are you? Humblegunner in drag?
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posted on
01/23/2014 11:42:15 AM PST
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
To: cotton1706; LS
I appreciate your point, but I am more influenced by the post above you.
I have followed and read a lot that LS has written in published work and here over a decade. His accessment of Milton makes me say that he is no longer an “uncashed check” if we have a solid accessment from long term knowledge. That being said, I hope when we work locally we don’t focus nationally on servicable guys like Roberts when we have so many damn pitifull Rino’s like Grahamn.
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posted on
01/23/2014 11:50:33 AM PST
by
KC Burke
(Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
To: SoConPubbie
“It the theKansasCitian in the Must Excerpt list?”
I have no idea. I thought all posts had to be 300 words or less.
To: cotton1706; KC Burke
Eighteen years and his conservative rating is trending downward. We dont need to keep these people around until THEY decide to retire just because we dont know enough about the other guy. Thats how we end up with the likes of Ted Stevens, Frank Murkowski, Thad Cochran, Orrin Hatch, Richard Lugar, William Roth, John Warner, Arlen Specter, Mitch McConnell, etc.
Agreed.
There is no harm in replacing someone like Roberts, and there is no harm either.
Even if it fails, it puts Roberts on notice and should make him uncomfortable enough to force him to the right.
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posted on
01/23/2014 11:58:58 AM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: cotton1706
I have no idea. I thought all posts had to be 300 words or less.
Nope, only if they are in the Copyright list.
They only reason I am making an issue about this is that the article is well-written and the points being made are excellent.
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posted on
01/23/2014 12:00:11 PM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: SoConPubbie
You’re the only one who tells me these things. Although, to be fair, I imagine that most of the stuff I post is from the Copyright list since I’m constantly running into the 300 word warning.
To: LS
Don't you mean that Milton is Libertarian or at least Libertarian leaning as he's not truly pro-life nor against gay marriage, he merely thinks those things need to be decided by each state not nationally. He also has no problem legalizing drugs and that hardly defines conservative positions in Kansas.
I'm not sure how long he's been a good friend and I don't doubt that he's a good and decent person but he's also someone who saw an opening and instead of ever bothering to spend much time in local politics.
He never bothered running to represent his neighborhood for the GOP or even serving on his local park board.
Without even bothering to vote for many seasons, determined that he needed to unseat a U.S. Senator, who may have spent too long in DC but that's not enough background to be selling himself as a "life long conservative," because he does not fit that category.
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posted on
01/23/2014 12:18:40 PM PST
by
zerosix
(Native Sunflower)
To: SoConPubbie
Replacing Roberts might be ideal but we'd best not jump at someone we know absolutely nothing about - Wolf has never bothered to work in local conservative KS circles, ever!
There isn't much of a record of his even bothering to vote, so I'm concerned that he's working very hard at selling himself as something that he has no proven record to back that up.
Lastly, having worked long and hard in KS conservative circles, I'm more than a bit skeptical of someone claiming the Ronald Reagan conservative banner without any track record and what I can find, is merely some newspaper editorials presenting his credentials as, "Barack Obama's Physician Cousin
..says:"
Nope, no more pigs in a poke only to find out that the devil I threw out is actually better than the one I have replaced him with!
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posted on
01/23/2014 12:25:54 PM PST
by
zerosix
(Native Sunflower)
To: cotton1706
“I imagine that most of the stuff I post is from the Copyright list”
Always check first before posting if you are not sure.
And yes, 300 words or less or in the case of a small article, less than one half of the article can be posted.
Here is the link to the Copyright List, also hot linked at the top of the Latest Post and Latest Articles pages.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111944/posts
To: zerosix
Roberts is part of the problem. He is one of those "stay in the back, don't rock the boat" conservatives. His positions don't vote. His votes vote.
But, I don't live in KS. And as I recall, Sen. Ron Johnson, a very conservative darling (until recently) in WI had never run for ANYTHING before he ran for, and won, the WI senate seat from (I think) Kohl. That's a CHARACTER TRAIT of Tea Party people, while running for, and holding, every office you can find is a trait of old-style politicians.
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posted on
01/23/2014 2:21:25 PM PST
by
LS
('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
To: zerosix
A little e-mail from Milton. I asked him about your contention that he is "not truly pro-life nor against gay marriage."
"I unapologetically believe that life begins at conception and that marriage should be between one man and one woman."
Pretty unequivocal. Again, irrelevant that he hasn't run for dog catcher before. That's the essence of many Tea Party people---we aren't professional pols.
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posted on
01/23/2014 3:01:50 PM PST
by
LS
('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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