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To: jocon307
"Yes, I like it too, it’s one of my fave “lefty” songs."

I don't particularly consider it a "lefty" song. Yes, it is anti-war, but not in any overtly partisan sense, not taking one side against the other, and it never came across to me as preachy or self-righteous. I think it was a genuine hope that war would end. I think that most people agree that war is a bad thing, even if many regard it as a necessary evil. Moreover, the anti-war part is added-on at the end as part of the fadeout, it isn't part of the main lyric.
97 posted on 12/18/2013 3:29:00 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Or the line “War Is Over...If You Want It.”

Well guess what? “Charlie” didn’t want the war to be over.


109 posted on 12/18/2013 3:43:33 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Steve_Seattle

I think (and I hope someone will correct me if I’m wrong, because I’m way too lazy to google this) the song came out right after the end of the Vietnam War, or as we on the Right say after the fall of Saigon. You’ll notice they say (sing) “war IS over”, emphasis mine. So, I count it as pretty lefty. Not like “Imagine”, a song which I’ve always abhorred and the continued popularity of which makes me think that almost nobody listens to the lyrics (in fact, I’m convinced for many reasons that this is true).

But I do like “and so this is Christmas”, it’s reflective and slightly melancholy but ends up joyful (even if I can’t agree with the underlying facts as I recall them), it’s very much how I feel each Christmas time.

I was never the world’s biggest Lennon (or Beatles) fan, but I like to think if Lennon hadn’t been disgustingly murdered he might have come over to our side a bit more. I still remember that his and Yoko’s foundation (whatever it was called, I can’t remember) gave money for bullet proof vests for NYC cops, even though they got grief over it from their fellow lefties. (Again, correct me Freepers if I’m wrong in my recollection!)

Christmas Best to you and yours and may all your listening be rocking!


138 posted on 12/18/2013 4:24:13 PM PST by jocon307
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