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H-1B Employers Want Quantity, Not Quality
Center For Immigration Studies ^ | 25 November 2013 | John Miano

Posted on 12/02/2013 12:51:51 PM PST by zeestephen

In my years working in the computer industry I have encountered many workers on H-1B visas. The most highly skilled among them were of average skill. On H-1B labor condition applications, employers using skills-based prevailing wage claims classified 56 percent of the H-1B workers at the lowest skill level (of four). For those not familiar with the industry, this creates an apparent contradiction. Why do employers crave below-average workers?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: amnesty; billgateslied; blamebillgates; degreedprofessional; ericcantor; fairtrade; fairtradeinternet; fairtradetechwork; h1b; h1bvisas; immigration; karlrove; mitchmcconnell; paulryan; reincepriebus; uschamberofcommerce
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1 posted on 12/02/2013 12:51:51 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

What is always true is you get what you pay for.


2 posted on 12/02/2013 12:55:21 PM PST by AU72
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To: zeestephen

Dirt cheap labor is what it’s all about..

The greed is what brought on the American decline, along with tens of millions of illegal aliens.

Profits regardless of consequences.


3 posted on 12/02/2013 12:55:22 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: zeestephen

Because the bean counters run corporate america. They are ok with paying 4 people to do the work of one. because they can just hammer the manager to make sure its actually done.


4 posted on 12/02/2013 12:58:24 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dragnet2

I’ve seen companies knowingly hire teams of 4-5 people where only 1 was competent. That one person would try to do the work of all 5.


5 posted on 12/02/2013 12:59:43 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AU72
Not necessarily. In the case of the BO administration, you pay top dollar for incompetence.

But it is well worth reading the whole thing. If we did what the Japanese do with the H-1B equivalents, these games would come to a quick end.

In Japan, it is REQUIRED that you pay a minimum 10% premium to import labor.

I was a contract worker in Japan for 13 years and they gladly paid the premium until I got too expensive with the wage scale rising every year since the premium wasn't only based on the prevailing wage for the position but also for the years of experience.

6 posted on 12/02/2013 1:01:20 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: driftdiver

We used to have annual...”pummel the American programmers at year end to fix what the foreigners hath wrought on the code for the previous 10 months” initiatives. Usually around the Holidays, which is when you want to work overtime for no extra pay.


7 posted on 12/02/2013 1:04:39 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Vigilanteman

Dude, that’s protectionism! Can’t have that, it’s anti-business, you betcha. /s


8 posted on 12/02/2013 1:05:28 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Yep I used to be a project manager in that environment. USED TO


9 posted on 12/02/2013 1:06:36 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: zeestephen
the company I recently contracted with is starting to replace Indians with Philippians to save money.
10 posted on 12/02/2013 1:06:59 PM PST by AU72
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To: zeestephen; a fool in paradise

What the employers want is docility. Been there seen that. Docility and fear or inability to jump ship for sunnier beaches.


11 posted on 12/02/2013 1:08:25 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: zeestephen

DING DING DING...

We have a winner.


12 posted on 12/02/2013 1:11:22 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: zeestephen

H1B is to skilled labor, what illegals are to unskilled, its really no more complicated than that.


13 posted on 12/02/2013 1:12:13 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: driftdiver

Yeah, I’ve been that one person.


14 posted on 12/02/2013 1:14:04 PM PST by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: zeestephen

This ain’t new….the IEEE has had constant complaints of H-1B visa abuse to the determent of US citizens since at least the 70s


15 posted on 12/02/2013 1:14:54 PM PST by Nifster
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To: zeestephen
Why do employers crave below-average workers?

Within the context of H1-b(and similar guest worker programs), they're cheaper and easier to control (versus citizens or competent & citizenship-seeking immigrants)

Things like this only prove the necessity of rolling back immigration laws & regulations to what existed before the 1965 Immigration Act. While it wouldn't be pleasant for some, it would remove an immigration system that promotes fraud against citizens.

16 posted on 12/02/2013 1:17:20 PM PST by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: driftdiver
Because the bean counters run corporate America

A great example of p*ssing in their own pool to such an extent that the electorate gets disgusted and goes Communist.


17 posted on 12/02/2013 1:20:33 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Wolfie
The Japanese often get accused of racism by looking out after their own. I have yet to meet one who was seriously injured by the accusation.

On the contrary, the foreign workers paid a premium under the law are actually grateful to their host country for the opportunity. Imagine that!

18 posted on 12/02/2013 1:25:21 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Ross Perot pointed out when he ran for President, that in Japan American business did not encounter former Japanese officials or elite college graduates offering themselves for a six digit salary to help Americans find legal loopholes in Japanese law to bring in products. The opposite is in the US. When the Japanese arrive with money hundreds of former US trade regulators as well as the finest graduates from our best elite universities offer to be lobbyist and consultants to help them bypass our trade laws and regs to bring in Japanese products to put Americans out of work. Of course for a tidy sum in six digits they were willing to sell their own country out to Japan.
Our problem is not just CEO’s, but the elite colleges that recruit our best and teach them to sell out the US for the mighty dollar. Big gov and big business is the enemy of America. Next revolution members of both establishment will be hung from trees.


19 posted on 12/02/2013 1:35:43 PM PST by Fee
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To: Fee
While I understand what you are saying, having worked in Japan for 14 years, I can tell you that they do not want to impoverish Americans, they just want to sell what they produce. On the contrary, Japan wants America to have a strong middle class like they do because we are their best customers.

I can recite you an impressive laundry list of American companies who succeeded big time in Japan because they were willing to adapt to the market in much the same way the Japanese have learned to adapt to ours. You don't hear about them too much on this side of the pond because these successful businesses don't want to attract more bees to the honeypot.

Further, I can tell you that the first company I worked for over there was a big time importer of American and European made goods. While there were exceptions, as a general rule, the Europeans were willing to start small, do custom work and create a brand. The Americans, for the most part, wanted to dump surplus produce in big quantities at discount prices as if Japan was a giant market for Ollie's or Big Lots type operations. Some of them even wanted us to sign contracts where they would make and ship stuff from China . . . as if we had no expertise to do that kind of stuff ourselves. It was pretty insulting.

In the heyday, JETRO (the equivalent of the trade office of our commerce department) even put on seminars to train foreign companies who wanted to export to Japan and enlisted companies like ours to do affirmative action style importing. I kid you not. Our company actually got a national reward for this type of thing.

My boss and I were invited to do present a couple of hours of a JETRO sponsored seminar. We got a 150,000 yen honorarium for our trouble. The company allowed us to keep 50,000 yen (about $500) each. I wish I could've done that kind of work every day.

20 posted on 12/02/2013 2:07:52 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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