You have no idea how big the Obama lie is

Flopping Aces ^ | 11-07-13 | DrJohn

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It's HUGE. John Rosenthal at PJ Media:

And thanks to the recent reporting of CNN (where were they and the other media three years ago, when we needed them?), more people will realize that shortly after the passage of Obamacare the Obama administration implemented rules specifically designed to ensure that millions of people — those who provided for themselves on the individual market, i.e., who did not receive coverage through their employer or union — would not be allowed to keep their current insurance. Thus not only were Obama’s assurances untrue; they were purposeful deceit in which a supine press was complicit.

Jay Carney, the Official Propagandist of the Obama regime said:

One of the things health reform was designed to do was to help not only the uninsured but also the underinsured. And there are a number of Americans, fewer than 5 percent of Americans, who’ve got cut-rate plans that don’t offer real financial protection in the event of a serious illness or an accident.

Now if you had one of these substandard plans before the Affordable Care Act became law and you really liked that plan, you were able to keep it. That’s what I said when I was running for office.

That was part of the promise we made.

No, not 5%. Try 69%.

John Hinderaker at Powerline Blog:

The Obama administration projected low-end, mid-range and high-end estimates for how many plans would be terminated, in total and broken down between large and smaller employers. The bottom line is that the administration expected 51% of all employer plans to be terminated as a result of Obamacare. That is the mid-range estimate; the high-end estimate was 69%. So as of 2010, the Obama administration planned that most Americans with employer-sponsored health care plans would lose them, whether they liked those plans or not.

As for individual, as opposed to group plans, the Obama administration said that data were insufficient to predict how many would lose grandfather status, but in any given year the percentage of such policies losing such status would “exceed[] the 40 percent to 67 percent range.”

Those numbers starkly contradict Obama’s “if you like your insurance, you can keep it” assurances. But it is worth noting that the percentage of pre-Obamacare plans that would terminate within the first few years after the law was enacted isn’t the main point. The administration never intended to allow any American to keep a non-Obamacare insurance policy for any length of time.

And for small business, it's more like 80%.

Sen. Mike Enzi:

[Hoodat]

You obviously don’t understand how fascism works.

[CivilWarBrewing]

Obama Lied to Congress about Obamacare. Now What? [Vanity]

[cicero2k]

supine press was complicit

That's Krauthammer speak.

Once the Democrats become the party that can't be trusted, we'll have a chance.

[Truth29]

This is the stuff of which revolutions are made. Unfortunately, this revolution is being perpetrated by the occupant of the White House.

[FrdmLvr]

I want a “like” button on this site! ;)

[kenmcg]

Have no fear the pubbies don’t have the guts to go after Obama. It will be left entirely to the T party, with no help from MSM.

[Dead Corpse]

At this point, it would be easier to list the times he’s told the Truth due to the fact that said list would be much SHORTER.

[Ray76]

At this point, it would be easier to list the times he’s told the Truth due to the fact that said list would be much SHORTER.

Here ya go:

 

 

Did I miss any?

[Heartlander]

We must not forget the initial lie told to the American people that Obamacare would not be a tax. They knew it would never pass as a tax and it also breaks Obama’s other promise not to raise taxes on the middle class. From the White House talking points 9/29/2009:

What President Obama is proposing is not a tax, but a requirement to comply with the law.

People are required to obey the speed limit and have to pay a penalty if they get caught speeding? Does anyone consider that a tax?

People are required to have car insurance and can be fined if they are caught without it. Is that a tax?

This whole damn thing has been one lie after another – while knowing the American people would not have gone along with Obamacare if they knew the truth - and he sure as hell would not have been reelected...

[Ray76]

Good point. The talking points link is a good find, proof.

“Obama” is a body of lies.

[Dead Corpse]

Nope. Looks like a complete list to me. Good work!

[newfreep]

The “Dread Pirate Roberts” has blood all over his hands on this traitorist act!

[MrB]

the Obama administration implemented rules specifically designed to ensure that millions of people — those who provided for themselves on the individual market, i.e., who did not receive coverage through their employer or union — would not be allowed to keep their current insurance.

That right there makes you a target of the Obama administration.

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[lepton]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2009/09/29/word-white-house-common-ground-health-insurance-reform-real-health-care-tax

Thanks heartlander

Word from the White House: Common Ground on Health Insurance Reform & The Real Health Care Tax

Jesse Lee
September 29, 2009
10:39 AM EST

It’s no secret that institutions of all stripes focus their communications on certain messages day to day. We thought it would all be a little more open and transparent if we went ahead and published what our focus will be for the day, along with any related articles, reports or documents.
Supporting article: “Study: Insured pay ‘hidden tax’ for uninsured health care,” USA Today, 5/29/09
Supporting report: “Hidden Health Tax’ for Family Health Coverage Climbed to $1,017 in 2008,” Families USA, 5/28/09
Talking Points: Common Ground on Health Insurance Reform
As we continue to move closer and closer to reform, one encouraging sign is the striking degree of consensus between the various bills making their way through Congress.
The common features in these bills underscore the level of fundamental agreement about what health insurance reform should look like and offer a clear outline of what it will mean for Americans:
 
Unprecedented security and stability
Each bill would put an end to some of the insurance industry’s worst practices, like denying you coverage because of a pre-existing condition, or dropping or watering down your coverage when you get sick and need it most.
 
Expanded access to affordable care
Each bill would provide affordable options by creating an exchange where you can leverage the purchasing power of a large group to get reasonable prices and choose the option that’s best for you and your family.
 
Lower costs for all Americans – including seniors
Each bill would increase choice and competition in the health care market.
For seniors, each would protect and strengthen Medicare while making prescription drugs more affordable in the “donut hole.”
 
Improving quality of care by bolstering prevention and primary care
Each bill invests in both prevention and building the workforce of primary care providers.
Insurance companies would be required to fully cover preventive care and checkups.
 
Talking Points: The Real Health Care Tax
Not surprisingly, as health insurance reform continues to gain momentum, its opponents continue to hurl baseless attacks in the hopes that something will stick.
The latest en vogue assault in their last-ditch effort to preserve the status quo is an alleged tax that reform will impose on middle-class families.
But here’s the reality: Right now, under the system they wish to preserve, hundreds of millions of Americans who get insurance through their job or buy it on their own are paying a hidden tax of $1,000 to cover the costs of caring for Americans without health insurance.
And that figure is growing by the day as more and more people lose their insurance.
What President Obama is proposing is not a tax, but a requirement to comply with the law.
People are required to obey the speed limit and have to pay a penalty if they get caught speeding? Does anyone consider that a tax?
People are required to have car insurance and can be fined if they are caught without it. Is that a tax?
What we’re talking about is a penalty for the few people who will refuse to buy health insurance – even though they can afford it – and who expect the rest of us to pick up the tab for their care.
Q: But what about the fees on insurance companies, drugmakers, devicemakers? Won’t that be passed on to consumers as a hidden tax?
A: No, for at least three reasons:
First, the fees are lump sum, not per unit, so you should not expect that manufacturers will pass them on.
Do critics really think the drug companies are holding back their prices today out of the goodness of their hearts and would decide to raise them to make up for this lump sum - but couldn’t raise them today to get higher profits?
 
Second, these fees are intended to recapture part of the benefits these businesses will get from reform, as they acquire tens of millions of new customers.
If you believe the lump sum tax put pressure on them to raise prices, then the fact that they are getting lots of revenue from new customers will reduce that pressure.
 
Third, the fees are all going to ensure that we are increasing the numbers getting affordable coverage and thus reducing the $1,000 hidden tax that millions of Americans pay for the uncompensated care of the uninsured.
So even if you believed that somehow companies would find a way to pass them along, that would be more than outweighed by the benefits middle-class families would get from not only hundreds of billions of dollars in health care tax credits but from reducing the hidden tax they currently pay for the uninsured.