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To: LALALAW

“Best bet is through Mark Levine’s state constitutional amendment convention, led on by a Palin / Cruz Administration. Si se puede.”

I’m terrified of a constitutional convention. There are individuals so rich that they can buy votes at $1 million, $10 million, $100 million. I’m not certain there are enough conventioneers who can resist being rich just to vote their conscious. Also, those who fight hardest to be delegates will be the least qualified.


22 posted on 10/28/2013 10:09:17 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

DO NOT FEAR:

http://www.conventionofstates.com/media/prof-rob-natelson-speaks-alec-full-speech

It can be done with minimal risk. Frankly, the risk of not doing it -—and allowing the country to continue to drift into communism is the much greater risk!


23 posted on 10/28/2013 11:42:40 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Gen.Blather
Too many people are willing to jump out of the pan in into the fire!

And who would attend a convention if one were to be called today? Could Madison be right? Let us take a look at what happened in New Hampshire in 1984 when a state convention was called.

During the 1984 New Hampshire Convention, which was challenged in U.S. District Court, of the 400 delegates 64 were attorneys, eight were judges, four were state senators, and 113 were state representatives and two legislative lobbyists….the very snakes who are now causing our misery!

The suit went on to charge

“there has been over 175 lawyers, judges, senators and representatives out of the total of 400 constitutional convention (delegates) elected, (who) are already holding a pubic office both in the legislature and judicial branches in violation of the separation of powers doctrine, and this count does not include wives and immediate family members who have been elected on their behalf.”

And so, the very snakes who cause our miseries would dominate the convention and blackmail the states because of the states existing un-funded state pension funds. Keep in mind the Revolutionary War debt of the states was assumed by the federal government as part of the States signing onto our existing Constitution!

With the various State Pension funds being under funded and their total obligations at about $3.5 trillion, would the state delegates chosen to a second constitutional convention not be susceptible to granting extraordinary new powers to our federal government in return for the federal government assuming the various State unfunded debt liabilities?

And when such a proposal is brought back to the States for Ratification, are we to believe the “progressive” leadership of bankrupted states like California would not embrace enlarging the iron fist of the federal government in return for their state debt being wiped clean? SEE: California on the Brink: Pension Crisis About to Get Worse

I believe these questions are valid, and ought to be resolved in such a manner as to remove the threats which are very real.

In any event, I am very disappointed that Mark Levin would, perhaps out of desperation, perhaps out of a simple oversight, advance the idea of calling a second constitutional convention to propose amendments to our Constitution, when a failure to enforce our exiting Constitution is the cause of our misery, and is a cause which cannot be corrected by calling a convention to add more amendments to our Constitution. Our problem is in fact a despotic and tyrannical federal government, which is the same problem faced by our founding fathers. And what did our founding fathers do? There were basically three steps: redress of grievances, the Declaration of Independence, and finally a justifiable ass whipping for King George.

JWK

If the America People do not rise up and defend their Constitution and the intentions and beliefs under which it was adopted, who is left to do so but the very people who it was designed to control and regulate?

25 posted on 10/28/2013 1:37:44 PM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: Gen.Blather; SC_Pete

State delegates will show up with commissions which define their authority. Fear not an Article V amendment convention.


28 posted on 11/01/2013 12:53:38 PM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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