Posted on 09/30/2013 7:22:16 AM PDT by marktwain
The United States is 3rd inThe assertions in the above sound plausible, but they are false. The United States is not "3rd in murders throughout the world." This list, though incomplete, shows that their are dozens of countries with intentional homicide rates much higher than the United States, including Russia, Jamaica, South Africa, Brazil, Ukraine, Latvia, Georgia, and many others.
murders throughout the
world.
But if you take out Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC and New Orleans, the United States is 4th from the
bottom for
murders.
These 4
cities also have the toughest
gun
control
laws in the United States.
This tell you anything?
PS: These cities are also run by DEMOCRATS! Imagine that.
Using false mythologies for our arguments damages the credibility of those who are trying to restore the constitution.
One of the biggest implied myths by the anti-gun people is that the mere possession of a firearm turns a normally peaceful, non-violent person into an unstable, jittery, trigger-happy, imminent killer. Movies have been made to that effect (Blue Steel) and innocent, peaceful people made suspect by the simple fact of owning a firearm.
New Orleans doesn’t have tough gun laws. They don’t have any legal gun stores though. Most guns used in crime there are bought through straw purchases. A solid effort to crack down on them could nab most of them. The ATF doesn’t care about that though.
America would be a pretty safe place. That is the takeaway point. Here in S. Louis, for example, virtually 100% of murders are committed by blacks.
Well done. The truth is always more compelling. Unfortunately, there are too many, left and right, who feel the need to embellish, or to repeat unsupportable hearsay.
Aren’t the four cities mentioned considered to be mostly gun-free?
What the hell are they doing there — poisoning each other?
DUH!
Why am I not at all surprised that there are "no significant numbers" of African Americans and American Hispanics in EUROPE?!?!?!
Using false mythologies for our arguments damages the credibility of those who are trying to restore the constitution.
So does using ridiculous PC terminology.
Plain silly. If ya remove the top 4 cities from the other countries as well, they would have even less murders as well.
Then see how the US ranks against them then.
“Plain silly. If ya remove the top 4 cities from the other countries as well, they would have even less murders as well.”
Yes, it maybe silly, but I heard a speaker at the Gun Rights Policy Conference state it as fact. That type of hyperbole does not help us.
Roccus posted:
“DUH!
Why am I not at all surprised that there are “no significant numbers” of African Americans and American Hispanics in EUROPE?!?!?!”
“So does using ridiculous PC terminology.”
marktwain replies:
Please tell us what terminology you would use for those cultural groups.
You’ve got a point.
I put myself off on a tangent.
Offenses by jurisdiction - Michigan 2012
Michigan (9-10 Million population) - 628
Those with over 5 are: Detroit (700,000) - 355
Flint (105,000) - 58
Saginaw (51,000) - 23
Grand Rapids (190,000) - 16
Oakland County Sheriff's jurisdiction - 16 (80-90% of those are Pontiac - 60,000)
Lansing (115,000) - 12
Kalamazoo (75,000) - 9
Inkster (25,000) - 9
Battle Creek (52,000) - 8
Highland Park (11,000) - 6
514 out of the 628 are in cities combined of 1.38 million people. Detroit, Flint, and Saginaw combined are 436. Add Pontiac and it's probably about 450. Interesting the only "suburbs" here with 5 or more homicides are Pontiac, Highland Park, and Inkster. All are extremely ghetto.
The other 100,000 big cities in Michigan - all suburbs outside of Ann Arbor: Warren - 134,000 - 0
Sterling Heights - 130,000 - 1
Ann Arbor - 113,000 - 1
And because people here are obsessed with Dearborn, they had 1 homicide and has about 95,000 people.
You are gratious.
And if you took out “black” crime from the stats, we are probably the safest country in the world.
Blacks kill 7X more than whites kill. Blacks kill whites 20X more than whites kill blacks. Blacks assault/ mug whites 50X more than whites assault/ mug blacks. AND blacks RAPE white women 1000’s(yes, thousands) of times more than white men rape black women. There hasn’t been a black woman raped in NYC by a white man in anybodies memory, 20-30 years. Think Al Sharpton.There are 100’s of white woman raped in NYC by blacks every year. Google “Color of Crime” a research report
“AND blacks RAPE white women 1000’s(yes, thousands) of times more than white men rape black women. There hasn’t been a black woman raped in NYC by a white man in anybodies memory, 20-30 years. Think Al Sharpton.There are 100’s of white woman raped in NYC by blacks every year. Google “Color of Crime” a research report.”
Wow. I remember a TV show some years ago that featured a rape. Sure enough, it was a white man raping a black woman...
And we thought the old Soviet Union had a problem with Pravda!
As with many myths, there is a kernel of truth in the underlying idea. If you remove the subcultures from the United States that do not originate in Europe, and have no significant numbers in Europe (African American and American Hispanics) the murder rate for the United States falls into the middle of European murder rates.
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Any more research done on this topic? A friend just notified me of the statistic. Just wondering.
Nothing new in a while. Did you see the one on gun numbers in the U.S.?
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/06/firearms-numbers-in-united-states-1945.html
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