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To: daniel1212

Infallibility belongs in a special way to the pope as head of the bishops (Matt. 16:17–19; John 21:15–17). As Vatican II remarked, it is a charism the pope “enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith (Luke 22:32), he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or morals. Therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed Peter.”

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/papal-infallibility


59 posted on 09/27/2013 4:35:51 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker; iowamark
I understood that, as Rome has presumed to infallibly declare she is and will be perpetually infallible whenever she speaks in accordance with her infallibly defined (scope and subject-based) formula. And which renders her declaration that she is infallible, to be infallible, as well as all else she accordingly declares.

And the pope may uniquely claim infallibility as an individual when speaking in accordance with this criteria.

And nothing you said refutes what i had said.

61 posted on 09/27/2013 4:58:39 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: 9YearLurker
Infallibility belongs in a special way to the pope as head of the bishops ...

Now wait a ding-dang minute!

I've come away from FR many times after being told it's the MAGISTERIUM's decision making process that's infallible!!

121 posted on 09/29/2013 4:42:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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