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To: Errant

Actually, depending on when Zacharius, John the Baptist’s father served in the Temple, gives a possible date of...NOW OR, around Dec. 25th.

I tend to suspect that the Christians in the Roman empire were not so ill-informed, stupid, and dull as to get the date wrong after 200 years or so (when they first started celebrating Jesus’ birthday), and Christmas has NEVER been celebrated in the Fall.

So sorry Messianic Jews, Sukkot is NOT Jesus’ birthday—and 99.99% of Christ followers in history agree. You may want to get on the bandwagon and celebrate the date Jesus’ followers have faithfully followed for at least 1700 years.


9 posted on 09/22/2013 5:57:33 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: AnalogReigns
I tend to suspect that the Christians in the Roman empire were not so ill-informed, stupid, and dull as to get the date wrong after 200 years or so

They were so stupid as to not even be able to get the months of the year right:

September (Septi-) = 7, not the 9th month!
October (Octo-) = 8, not the 10th month!
November (Novem- = 9, not the 11th month!
December (Decem-, Dec-) = 10, no the 12th month

But one small example of the preponderance of the evidence to the contrary.

12 posted on 09/22/2013 6:09:57 PM PDT by Errant
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To: AnalogReigns

What I just posted to you, proves a link exists back to the Biblical reckoning of time for the Gregorian calendar.


13 posted on 09/22/2013 6:12:32 PM PDT by Errant
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To: AnalogReigns

Yep...I agree...I’m in the 99.99% and celebrate the 25th of Dec. with Christians throughout the world who celebrate at this time.


15 posted on 09/22/2013 6:18:00 PM PDT by caww
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To: AnalogReigns; Errant

>> “Actually, depending on when Zacharius, John the Baptist’s father served in the Temple, gives a possible date of...NOW OR, around Dec. 25th.” <<

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Nonsense!

Using the courses of service would deliver dates roughly 6 months apart, so December 25 is completely impossible.

Since Zeremiah served in the course of Abia, as stated in the scriptures, Sukkot is shown to be the date. But that should be no surprise, since the purpose of Sukkot was to prophecy the coming of the Messiach.


27 posted on 09/22/2013 6:50:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: AnalogReigns
Actually, depending on when Zacharius, John the Baptist’s father served in the Temple, gives a possible date of...NOW OR, around Dec. 25th.

I tend to suspect that the Christians in the Roman empire were not so ill-informed, stupid, and dull as to get the date wrong after 200 years or so (when they first started celebrating Jesus’ birthday), and Christmas has NEVER been celebrated in the Fall.

So sorry Messianic Jews, Sukkot is NOT Jesus’ birthday—and 99.99% of Christ followers in history agree. You may want to get on the bandwagon and celebrate the date Jesus’ followers have faithfully followed for at least 1700 years.

So you can explain those shepherds watching their flocks in late December, right?

FYI, for over a thousand years the Catholic Church was notorious for slapping Catholic Holy Days on top of "pagan" Holy Days, and building churches on top of "pagan" Holy Sites.

And right around December 25, there is the Winter Solstice, which is celebrated by the "pagans" as when the sun "stops" and then restarts after three days of apparent immobility in the the zodiac, being "born" as the "new sun(son) on... what a coincidence... December 25th.

Grow up. You want to be a Christian, fine. But at least acknowledge the existence of the rest of world history before you spit.

41 posted on 09/22/2013 7:54:45 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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