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Why Sukkot Is Yeshua’s Real Birthday [Today!]
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Posted on 09/22/2013 5:26:16 PM PDT by Errant

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To: Errant

That’s because the new year didn’t begin in January back then, but in early spring. There have been various systems, and the calendar has been adjusted several times. Our current system, the Gregorian calendar, came into use in 1582.


21 posted on 09/22/2013 6:39:11 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SkyDancer; Errant
Don’t know, don’t care. I’m an atheist. I don’t believe in Zeus.

I don't believe in Zeus either, But I believe in the real God. Just keep in mind, if you are right, and there is no God, well then we all end up as worm food. If Christians are right, then you might want to read the bible and talk to someone. It will give purpose and meaning to your life. Call it fire insurance. :)

22 posted on 09/22/2013 6:41:11 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: SkyDancer

You will definitely not be an atheist when you stand before the throne of Yeshua.


23 posted on 09/22/2013 6:44:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SkyDancer
Don’t know, don’t care. I’m an atheist. I don’t believe in Zeus.

I don't believe in Zeus either.

But considering what you say here, you expend the energy to reply on a thread that you think has no bearing for your life. Interesting choice of time management on your part.

Oh, and you DO have this posted on your profile page. So what's really going on in your life?


24 posted on 09/22/2013 6:45:13 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: who knows what evil?
I overheard a woman in a store in Tennessee telling her child that Joseph and Mary couldn’t find lodging before His birth because everyone in town was celebrating Chr*stmas.

No doubt Mary and Joseph should have made reservations via the internet.

25 posted on 09/22/2013 6:46:03 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Love the image....speaks volumes to those who can hear. HE who has this on his page is closer to the the thruth then those who claim so but have lost their way.


26 posted on 09/22/2013 6:48:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: AnalogReigns; Errant

>> “Actually, depending on when Zacharius, John the Baptist’s father served in the Temple, gives a possible date of...NOW OR, around Dec. 25th.” <<

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Nonsense!

Using the courses of service would deliver dates roughly 6 months apart, so December 25 is completely impossible.

Since Zeremiah served in the course of Abia, as stated in the scriptures, Sukkot is shown to be the date. But that should be no surprise, since the purpose of Sukkot was to prophecy the coming of the Messiach.


27 posted on 09/22/2013 6:50:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NoCmpromiz; SkyDancer

SkyDancer’s posting history would appear to be that of a believer.

I think that she pulleth our leg.


28 posted on 09/22/2013 6:53:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Doomonyou; SkyDancer
SkyDancer is a very smart person (based on posts I've seen), but like many other thinking folks, what little evidence they have seen, is easily disproven because it is lies that we've inherited. Just like Christmas being celebrated as the birth of the Messiah, when clearly it isn't.

SkyDancer, the reality, once you start examining it, leaves little doubt that a higher power exists - I promise you will be blown away by the enormity of it all. PM me if you need a few suggestions of where to start looking. ;)

Freepgards,

29 posted on 09/22/2013 6:54:19 PM PDT by Errant
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Skydancer... I love the image stating a man should look for a woman for her relationship to God on your page...many a man has done so and not regretted it by any means...

....and you sure have some swell pictures there....must be awesome flying like that..in Australia no less! I am truly jealous!

30 posted on 09/22/2013 6:54:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: editor-surveyor
since the purpose of Sukkot was to prophecy the coming of the Messiach.

Exactly - a shadow picture, just as was Passover for the sacrifice. It's why the Almighty instructed us to always observe these dates!

They are also shadows of events to yet to come.

31 posted on 09/22/2013 6:58:28 PM PDT by Errant
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To: huckfillary

The problem with that date is that April would be when an agricultural society, like most of Roman subjects would have been, starts planting their crops. After a long winter, their wealth would be at a low point and there would be very little to collect, which was the reason why Mary and Joseph were going to Bethlehem.


32 posted on 09/22/2013 6:58:35 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: caww; SkyDancer
HE who has this on his page

I got the impression from looking at SkyDancer's page, that she is a she...

The image on her page tends to contradict the reply above..

33 posted on 09/22/2013 7:00:09 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Well do correct my utter failure to call her a her or she.....I suspect the point was lost amid all the trouble of doing so.


34 posted on 09/22/2013 7:03:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: Errant

Christ fulfilled all “the shadows” of things to come. I don’t think he at all minds when we celebrate His birth, rather that we understand why HE came and His purposes.

Rather like people attempting to put a date on His second coming....we see the signs...which as at his birth were significant and with much meaning....but HE’s chosen not to tell us exactly when.

So too His birth...we can get a general idea but to get caught up in when exactly He was born is to miss the message of the “Good News”....and it is that Good news we celebrate...”A Savior is Born”....and generally when Christians do celebrate the Savior’s arrival.


35 posted on 09/22/2013 7:09:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jonty30; huckfillary

>> “which was the reason why Mary and Joseph were going to Bethlehem” <<

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Almost.

The real reason was because it was the commandment to go to Jerusalem for the Feast of Sukkot. Joseph also was required to vote in a Roman plebecite, from his home village, which was Bethlehem.

The conjunctions of the particular heavenly bodies that the Jewish astronomers from Babylon observed were also verified to have occured then by NASA computation.


36 posted on 09/22/2013 7:09:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: caww; Errant

>> “Christ fulfilled all “the shadows” of things to come.” <<

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Actually, no, he only completed some interim fulfillments.

The final fulfillments of Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot, The Last Great Day, and Purim are yet to come.

And Yehova is definitely incensed when men celebrate on pagan feast dates. He gave us the days to celebrate, and we are to do no others.


37 posted on 09/22/2013 7:15:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; caww
And Yehova is definitely incensed when men celebrate on pagan feast dates.

Indeed! I recall scriptures concerning a lecture to the Israelites, "not to learn the ways of the heathens (pagans)"! I'm pretty sure those rules apply to the branch as well!

38 posted on 09/22/2013 7:29:50 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

the Apostle says,... “let no one act as your judge in regard to . . .”

He is saying don’t let anyone tell you these things are ‘requirements’ for fellowship with God.... They were only shadows of the person and work of Christ,.... He has not only come and fulfilled those shadows, but He is ‘totally sufficient’.

Colossians 2:16 and 17.... in no way forbids believers from commemorating something such as the birth of Christ if it is done out of love, devotion, and the joy the season gives when used as a way of focusing on the Savior and not as a religious duty...... The issue is not the observance date or time, but the reason, the attitudes and the spirit in which it is done.


39 posted on 09/22/2013 7:40:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: Errant

I personally believe The Messiah was born in the 1st day of God’s calendar 6th month. Exactly 40 days before the Day of Atonement - where on the day of Atonement He was dedicated At the temple after the circumcision and the day purification of Miriam. They would still be in the area or Tabernacles for him to dwell as John put it...


40 posted on 09/22/2013 7:49:54 PM PDT by delchiante
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