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Contempt for illegal drug use blinds American public to alternatives
Coach is Right ^ | 8/25/13 | Bruce Karlson

Posted on 08/25/2013 8:46:19 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Please do not be guilty of the above when considering the legalization of all recreational drugs. Anyone is legally permitted to kill himself slowly with tobacco, once addicted. Equally, a person may legally drink himself to death and/or wreck the lives of those around him with a bottle a day. For such people we have compassion. But for the users of illegal drugs, most of us have only contempt.

It is difficult (impossible, actually) to understand the logic of making certain drugs illegal. Apart from legality, what is the difference between smoking a “joint” and having a beer? Further, doing a “line” of cocaine makes for an apt comparison with having a dry martini. Oh, the “gateway” routine? Well, weed may be a “gateway” drug but Budweiser and nicotine are the “gateways” to weed. Shall we continue this line of reasoning??

Society is visited with problems from both legal and illegal drugs but the illegal ones support a criminal culture that is bankrupting...

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: drugarrests; drugs; drugusers; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; prescriptiondrug; randsconcerntrolls
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To: JRandomFreeper

100% agreement! When it comes to American political policy there are who believe in one of two philosophies. Those who believe in the Constitution and the principles of liberty that it embodies and those who are statists who believe in forced control of the populace. Both the Democrat and Republican parties are primarily statists.


101 posted on 08/25/2013 11:50:04 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

On the issue of pot, the Constitution is absolutely silent. Not so with alcohol — prohibition was repealed.

Therefore, the states are empowered to outlaw pot. But states can’t enforce the border, so they can’t control drug trafficking. Keeping the scourge of drugs out of our country is one of the few things the Feds ought to be doing.

Acknowledging that it’s a good thing that California and Texas don’t field their own armies to defend the borders against drug traffickers and insisting that the Feds continue to defend the border is hardly “trashing the Constitution.”


102 posted on 08/25/2013 11:52:33 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Blue Ink
If the Constitution is silent on something, that power is left to the States or the people. Period.

It required a constitutional amendment to outlaw alcohol in the first place. You want to outlaw drugs at the federal level? Change the constitution.

/johnny

103 posted on 08/25/2013 11:56:01 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Red Dog #1
Perhaps all drugs could be legalized, if we were capable of standing idlely by and to witness the self destruction.

That presumes that the American people would stand idly by and do nothing sans the forced collection and redistribution of Federal tax dollars.

104 posted on 08/25/2013 11:56:20 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Exactly. The Constitution is silent on pot. But most states have outlawed it. Which is their right under the Constitution.

The Federal Government, however, MUST protect the nation from invasion. It’s one of their few enumerated jobs. The Constitution could not be clearer on that.

Armed, hostile, shoot-to-kill narco armies penetrating the border via midnight sneak, tunnels, or army vehicle convoy is an invasion. What else would you call it?

The states are not empowered to repel a foreign invasion. Only the Federal government can — and must. Again, the Constitution could not be clearer on that.


105 posted on 08/25/2013 12:16:17 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: goodwithagun
Look at the way it is now!

Do you like it. Is it "working",

Don't want to look in the dictionary at the definition of insanity and see a pic of yourself, try something different.

GW and TJ were both prolific cannabis growers! Would you put them in chains. Would you.

106 posted on 08/25/2013 12:20:54 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; /)
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To: Second Amendment First

“Carl Sagan — Marijuana”

And here I am thinking it was Billions and Billions of other things. Now I know why is was Billions and Billions of other things


107 posted on 08/25/2013 12:24:29 PM PDT by DanZ
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To: James C. Bennett

Makes sense...but what would you say to my once 20 years heroine addict friend who tells me that the pressure of the law and being in prison caused him to finally get clean.


108 posted on 08/25/2013 12:24:47 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
new addicts who divert their money and labors to their drug use will force taxpayers to pay for more

How can it cost more money if the drug addicts supply their own drugs

If anything it will cause an explosion in agrarian culture.

You don't understand the prohibition black market at all! If the govt gets it's nose outta peoples flower gardens the problem will resolve itself shortly.

109 posted on 08/25/2013 12:30:29 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; /)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

I’m through with the argument that we have to keep losing our rights and freedoms to this failed drug war because omg, it might cost more in welfare(!). First, our rights are worth more than that. Let’s say it doubles the cost. So instead of $25 billion, it’s $50 billion. Really...? That’s what we’re worried about? Never mind $1.2 TRILLION the feds go into the hole every year....we gotta make sure them potheads don’t get free munchies! Anyone who has a grip on 7th grade math and the exponential function knows this entire system is going to collapse. Not may, not possibly, it simply WILL. Period. How about we get some of our freedoms back and let the math problem reach it’s unavoidable end anyway?


110 posted on 08/25/2013 12:43:30 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Blue Ink

So is it your position that states have the power under the Tenth Amendment to outlaw OR legalize intrastate marijuana, regardless of what fedgov says?


111 posted on 08/25/2013 1:02:20 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: fabian
Makes sense...but what would you say to my once 20 years heroine addict friend who tells me that the pressure of the law and being in prison caused him to finally get clean.

I'd say to him he is a weakling with serious character flaws.

112 posted on 08/25/2013 1:04:56 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Jeff Chandler

Jeff, thank you for making my case for me.


113 posted on 08/25/2013 1:55:01 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Just because something isn’t working now doesn’t mean our current crop of pols are capable of fixing it correctly. I suggest you read back through my posts to see what I mean. Then you need to pop in your Dazed and Confused DVD, yeah I know you own a copy, and relax.


114 posted on 08/25/2013 2:04:30 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: TigersEye

That’s my point.


115 posted on 08/25/2013 2:36:22 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: TigersEye; Hawthorn; DannyTN
>> Marijuana causes bipolar and schitzophrenia <<

>> Never heard that before. What’s your evidence? <<

I have read some reports recently of studies which have shown the connection, but I always wonder if those kind of studies confuse cause and effect. Like the study which showed that people who have more sex have higher incomes, when everybody knows that women are attracted to men's high incomes. So perhaps crazy people tend to self-medicate with pot and skew the numbers.

116 posted on 08/25/2013 2:36:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: fabian

That he’s the anomaly compared to the norm among the people who go to prison young and come out hardened and worsened.


117 posted on 08/25/2013 2:37:26 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Most of the research I’ve seen on it shows it tends to exacerbate the problem in people that are genetically pre-disposed to those disorders, and the research subjects are described as “chronic, heavy users”.


118 posted on 08/25/2013 2:41:21 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

So you should only smoke pot if you’re not crazy?


119 posted on 08/25/2013 2:48:36 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: tacticalogic
the research subjects are described as “chronic, heavy users”.

With few exceptions, the pot smokers I've come across all fit that description. It seems to become the focal point of their lives.

120 posted on 08/25/2013 2:51:09 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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