[butterdezillion]

Adoptions result in new BC’s being created, not amendments to the original BC.

The short answer: the HDOH created a new, fake BC for Obama based on law enforcement saying after the Giffords shooting that it was necessary to protect Obama from the crazy violent birthers such as those in Arizona. In such cases the fake BC will say whatever law enforcement says is necessary to protect the registrant. The rest of this comment will give some more detail. Ignore it if you’re not interested.

Bennett requested that Onaka verify, in addition to the items from the enclosed application form, other items FROM THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. That wording provides a critical loophole for Onaka. Those words could mean “verify the truth of these facts that are claimed on the BC” or they could mean “verify that these facts are claimed on the BC”. Onaka never used a sentence saying exactly what he was verifying about those things, and on the dates he didn’t use the format that Bennett gave him but gave exactly the format that is on the White House image - as if he was providing a photocopy of those items FROM THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

The only way we know which way Onaka interpreted that is by looking at how he handled the rest of the request. He told us that the information that is contained in the White House image matches what is contained in the record. So if the record was legally valid he would have to verify the truth of every “fact” that Bennett submitted for verification. He didn’t. He didn’t even mention the gender, date, island of birth, mother’s name, or father’s name, and his mention of Honolulu only said that the BC “indicates” that Obama was born in Honolulu. In legal terms, that just means that the BC claims it. So the only thing that Onaka actually verified as true, in a sentence that is clear, is that they have a BC for Obama on which Honolulu is mentioned as the birth city.

Onaka had to verify everything he could. If the BC was valid Onaka would have to verify that Obama was born male, that he was born on Aug 4, 1961, that Honolulu is on Oahu, that Stanley Ann Dunham was the mother, and that Barack Hussein Obama was the father. He verifies none of those things, and the only lawful reason is if the BC itself is non-valid. And if the BC is non-valid, then Onaka had to interpret “FROM THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE” as meaning “verify that these items are on the birth certificate”.

But the thing that caught the eye of a lot of us immediately were the initials next to the signature stamp. Why distance himself? Onaka was personally swearing to the truth and lawfulness of his statement and yet he made somebody else take responsibility for stamping his signature so that he could always say he was never asked about it and was unaware of what was done.

Then there was even one step farther: Onaka has his own raised seal which he uses for multi-state self-authenticating legal copies of vital records every day..... and yet he would not put his raised seal on the document to authenticate his signature. Fuddy had to put her own raised seal, which by statute is required to be placed near her signature. But she wouldn’t sign it.

So even if somebody argued that Onaka had to be interpreting “FROM THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE” as meaning to verify that those items from the BC are true, there are 2 OTHER layers of deniability if a charge of perjury ever came up - the initials, and the mismatched seal and signature.

As to how the claim of a Kapiolani birth and an Aug 11, 1961 filing date could be on the BC, you have to look at one other thing: he also says the 10641 is the BC# on the BC. According to what Verna Lee told Corsi on tape (and supplementing it with what the CDC reported about the number order on the HI BC microfilms), that BC# had to belong to the 3rd Honolulu birth after Gretchen Nordyke. Almost certainly Stig Waidelich, whose BC# on his HDOH-issued COLB is way too high to be accurate. So we’ve got 2 BC#’s that the HDOH has shown on documents that could not have been on those BC’s in 1961. Too coincidental, too related, and too far off in the numbering to be two random accidentally-misfiled BC’s. So what that tells us is that the HDOH is switching around BC#’s. The only legal authorization for someone to be given a BC# that is different than the one originally issued to them is if a totally new BC is created for a person, in addition to their original BC, at the request of law enforcement which says that a new BC is necessary to protect the registrant. When a new, fake BC is created at the request of law enforcement, that new BC has to have a different BC# than the original BC had, and the BC will claim whatever law enforcement says it should claim. So if law enforcement says it should claim a Kapiolani birth with a filing date of Aug 11, 1961, then that is what it will say - even if that is totally fake.

This scenario fits the available evidence. According to the HDOH and an OIP attorney, Obama amended his BC (in 2006, according to a UIPA response I received). According to former OIP Director Paul Tsukiyama, his file includes affidavits to support the claims on his BC. That would not be necessary for a Kapiolani birth, so Obama’s original BC apparently did not claim a Kapiolani birth. More likely, it was an unattended birth reported by Madelyn Dunham to registrar Verna Lee. It probably had to be amended in 2006 to add missing information so that the record would have all the required information - without which the HDOH cannot print out even a COLB. Amending a BC (with a major administrative amendment) results in a non-valid BC so the only reason to do a major amendment is if the BC is already non-valid and so you’ve got nothing to lose by amending it. The reason for it to be non-valid before the amendment is if it was not completed within a year of the birth.

So what Onaka revealed in the letter of verification strongly suggests that Madelyn Dunham reported an unattended birth for Obama but the registrar was not able to gather all the necessary information within a year. In 2006 when Obama was considering a run for Presidency he tried to get a copy of a HI BC but was told he couldn’t get a copy because his BC was incomplete. So he submitted some kind of affidavit to complete the BC and thought he was fine because the item that was amended (birth weight, I believe) doesn’t even show up on the part of the BC that is printed out for the public. He ordered a copy in June of 2007 but when he got it, he saw that it had the LATE and ALTERED stamps on it. So they had to forge a BC for the passport file. They needed a BC# so they got Stig Waidelich to agree to let Obama use his. The forged COLB was made public, trying to hide the BC# but when people didn’t buy the genuineness of the COLB they used the trophy photos of the COLB with Stig’s BC# to show the public. They expected everything to be fine. But it wasn’t, and eventually when the state eligibility bills came up the Obama handlers realized they were possibly going to need a long-form, which was going to require the HDOH to fabricate documents. At a time when the dems were gonna need all the help they could get to try to keep the House, Abercrombie announced he was quitting Congress to run for HI governor. One of the first things he did was to appoint Neal Palafox as the interim HDOH Director. Not long after that he gave interviews to NYT, LA Times, etc saying he was going to make Obama’s long-form available for the public to see, to head off troubles from state eligibility bills. Arizona had enough R’s elected in the 2010 landslide to overturn a Brewer veto if necessary and it was a real threat. But they had to get the HDOH to give Obama Stig’s BC# so the official record would match the previous forgery, and the only way to do that was by getting law enforcement to say that Obama was in danger from the “birthers” such as the Surprise Tea Party in Arizona... Since the Tea Party started the media had been harping on how violent they were and liberal plants had tried to substantiate that belief but it wasn’t working. Some high democrat said that Obama needed another OKC bombing....

Around that same time Jared Loughner’s seeming schizophrenia turned violent. He bought a gun... He went on a shooting rampage that injured Gabby Giffords and killed Judge John Roll, a judge of great integrity who would probably have heard a challenge to an AZ eligibility bill and who wasn’t likely to be threatened or intimidated into ruling against his conscience and the law. Immediately Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, Janet Napolitano, etc blamed the violence on those AZ hicks who are so violent and so backwards that they question Obama’s eligibility...

Suddenly grounds for law enforcement to say that Obama had to be protected from “birthers”. Amazing!

But Palafox and Onaka balked. A Star-Advertiser columnist asked for an update on the quest to make Obama’s BC public, and Abercrombie said the investigation had actually found something written down. That piqued the curiosity of Mike Evans, who called Abercrombie and heard that there is no proof of a Hawaii birth. Within about a week Palafox was asked to resign, with the AG’s office spreading rumors that he was being investigated for medical billing fraud and with Abercrombie and Okubo saying he resigned for personal reasons, not because he was asked to resign. But Palafox resisted, telling the media that he didn’t know why he resigned, and eventually Abercrombie had to admit that he had lied; he DID ask Palafox to resign but wouldn’t say why.

Fuddy replaced Palafox and instantly set about making it so that the HDOH would not have to issue long-form copies. Around then, WND’s source within the HDOH said that they were struggling over how to reconcile the BC# problem. They apparently decided to switch BC#’s around to make it look like BC’s were numbered alphabetically, and eventually had to give up on that so they numbered Sunahara’s BC so that nobody could find any rhyme or reason to how BC’s were numbered.

At the request of law enforcement they created a new BC that said exactly what law enforcement said was necessary to protect Obama from the “crazy Arizona racist birthers”: a BC that looked like a routine Kapiolani birth, with the same BC# as the Obama handlers had put on Obama’s forged BC for the passport file and that was shown to the public.

But even at that they had a problem, because Onaka knew that a new BC was only authorized to be made for somebody who was actually born in Hawaii, and the non-valid original record for Obama wouldn’t allow Hawaii to presume that Obama was born in Hawaii. Onaka has the authority to refuse to issue a certified copy of a BC if he knows it was obtained through fraud. In this case, the fraud was done by HDOH Director Fuddy, who ordered him to create the new BC even though Onaka knew it was illegal. To keep Fuddy and Obama from getting away with the fraud, Onaka allowed Fuddy to think all was well as she watched him copy the long-form but when she wasn’t looking he added the smiley face to his signature and stamped it with a stamp that had TXE on it. Unbeknownst to Fuddy, the person who created the forgery put in typing and alignment anomalies as well. And Onaka stamped it with LATE and ALTERED.

When the BC arrived in DC they had a problem. They had to get rid of the LATE and ALTERED stamps, and they had to do it in time for Obama to present the BC at a press conference before quickly getting on a plane to Chicago so he could gloat on an Oprah show in front of the low-information masses. In the haste to get the alterations made, they didn’t get the security background right. They copied swatches from part of the background and copied the swatch to create an entire page without realizing the result would NOT look like the real paper the HDOH uses. They had to apply a raised seal but had to make it so vague you could never tell what it was.

When it came time for Bennett’s verification request, the HDOH already knew they couldn’t issue a verification for Obama. They had been preparing to refuse all verification requests for some time, as I’ve noted. Okubo told me that there are no verification forms because they don’t issue verifications. Another worker privately told someone that all verification requests were being stalled by the AG’s office so it wouldn’t seem odd that they would never issue a verification for Obama. They stalled on Bennett’s request and only finally did anything when Bennett first said he might keep Obama off the ballot if they didn’t provide a fig leaf for him, and then said that he would put Obama on the ballot as long as they sent him SOMETHING. So they sent him a verification that Obama’s BC is non-valid and he put Obama’s name on the ballot. TPM Muckraker hid the actual application form so nobody would know what Onaka should have verified if the record was valid, and since then the legal threats have been handled by threats to the challengers (for instance, in Kansas).

It’s late. This is much longer and more involved than you asked for. I just wanted you to know that there are a lot of factors that go into this theory/analysis. There’s a lot that I haven’t said, some of which I really can’t say either for strategic reasons or because my sources haven’t given permission.

[Seizethecarp]

I suggest that butterdezillion’s long, detailed scenario be considered to be pinged to all eligibility ping lists. Key passage excerpted below. Butterdezillion suggests that Fuddy at HDOH directed the forgery of Barry’s LFBC and makes her case for it. I tend to believe that Barry’s team did the forgery and had it inserted into the HDOH vital records with the complicity of Fuddy and Onaka.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3052270/posts?page=406#406

key butterdezillion excerpt (IMO) which explains some remaining pdf copy issues of the thread topic:

“Fuddy replaced Palafox and instantly set about making it so that the HDOH would not have to issue long-form copies. Around then, WND’s source within the HDOH said that they were struggling over how to reconcile the BC# problem. They apparently decided to switch BC#’s around to make it look like BC’s were numbered alphabetically, and eventually had to give up on that so they numbered Sunahara’s BC so that nobody could find any rhyme or reason to how BC’s were numbered.

“At the request of law enforcement they created a new BC that said exactly what law enforcement said was necessary to protect Obama from the “crazy Arizona racist birthers”: a BC that looked like a routine Kapiolani birth, with the same BC# as the Obama handlers had put on Obama’s forged BC for the passport file and that was shown to the public.

“But even at that they had a problem, because Onaka knew that a new BC was only authorized to be made for somebody who was actually born in Hawaii, and the non-valid original record for Obama wouldn’t allow Hawaii to presume that Obama was born in Hawaii. Onaka has the authority to refuse to issue a certified copy of a BC if he knows it was obtained through fraud. In this case, the fraud was done by HDOH Director Fuddy, who ordered him to create the new BC even though Onaka knew it was illegal. To keep Fuddy and Obama from getting away with the fraud, Onaka allowed Fuddy to think all was well as she watched him copy the long-form but when she wasn’t looking he added the smiley face to his signature and stamped it with a stamp that had TXE on it. Unbeknownst to Fuddy, the person who created the forgery put in typing and alignment anomalies as well. And Onaka stamped it with LATE and ALTERED.

“When the BC arrived in DC they had a problem. They had to get rid of the LATE and ALTERED stamps, and they had to do it in time for Obama to present the BC at a press conference before quickly getting on a plane to Chicago so he could gloat on an Oprah show in front of the low-information masses. In the haste to get the alterations made, they didn’t get the security background right. They copied swatches from part of the background and copied the swatch to create an entire page without realizing the result would NOT look like the real paper the HDOH uses. They had to apply a raised seal but had to make it so vague you could never tell what it was.”