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To: BigGuy22
Onaka is in no position to attest to what is factually correct in that he has no personal knowledge of the event.

That's obviously true. Even if Obama were to turn out to have been born in Mombasa, it would not make a liar out of Dr Onaka, who would have been a high school kid at the time of Obama's birth.

However, the fact that Dr Onaka is able to verify that the facts on the certificate match those on file with the DoH makes it just as pointless to argue that the document(s) are somehow forged as it would be to forge them.

364 posted on 08/12/2013 3:45:39 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

I should count how many times on this thread alone I have explained this, only to have you guys totally blow it off even though it is in the HI statutes. Onaka’s verification has nothing to do with his own personal knowledge of a birth event. What Onaka has to report is the legal status of the claims. Is the BC considered probative according to the standards of the State of Hawaii? If so, the claims are legally presumed to be true, based on the trustworthiness of the record - not based on anything Onaka personally knows or doesn’t know.

What’s actually on the record is irrelevant if the record itself has no legal/evidentiary value. That’s why the MDEC request was a total waste of time and proves nothing. The Bennett request asked the direct question: Can you verify that HI presumes Barack Hussein Obama to have been born a male on Aug 4, 1961, in Honolulu on the island of Oahu, to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama? Onaka’s response was basically “no comment”. Given that he has to say so if Hawaii DOES presume those facts to be true, Onaka’s response effectively confirms that they DON’T presume those claims to be true.

If you don’t understand that by now it is because you are either too dense to “get it” or too crooked to admit that you get it.


394 posted on 08/12/2013 6:49:22 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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