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To: Seizethecarp

Why would they scan it on the Xerox and not save it until it was on a Mac? They didn’t do that with the tax return NBC cites. Of course, that tax return is the only one that mentions Xerox WorkCentre. If the Xerox does all scans in landscape orientation, then wouldn’t the tax form be sideways unless it was first previewed, rotated, and then saved - yielding a PDF producer other than the Xerox?

I knew something was screwy with the WH long-form file when I tried C&P-ing it into a Word document and it showed the haloes. I wanted to test whether the same thing happened with other documents scanned and posted at whitehouse.gov but my computers are giving me trouble again.

Just so you know, Zullo has mentioned that the security background doesn’t match that used at the HDOH at the time, so his emphatic claim that the White House image is absolutely known to be a forgery is not just based on the artifacts and/or computer analyses.


174 posted on 08/10/2013 10:12:20 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

“Why would they scan it on the Xerox and not save it until it was on a Mac?”

The Xerox WorkCentre emailed the PDF directly to the users in-box. That person opened it on a Mac, but it could also have been opened on a windows based computer.

“If the Xerox does all scans in landscape orientation, then wouldn’t the tax form be sideways unless it was first previewed, rotated, and then saved - yielding a PDF producer other than the Xerox?”

The tax forms are in landscape when you open them in Adobe Illustrator. But when you view them in Adobe Photoshop, Acrobat Reader or Preview they are in portrait mode. The software seems to recognize the orientation.

As to the timing. the tax returns are not just available at the White House website, they are also on other sites like the Tax History Project. Here is the wayback machine’s view of the THP site from April 20, 2011.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110420011620/http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns?OpenDocument


180 posted on 08/11/2013 7:51:30 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: butterdezillion

“Just so you know, Zullo has mentioned that the security background doesn’t match that used at the HDOH at the time, so his emphatic claim that the White House image is absolutely known to be a forgery is not just based on the artifacts and/or computer analyses.”

How can it be proved in court beyond a reasonable doubt that only ONE type of security paper was in use by HDOH?

It seems to me that the office where routine COLBs are produced for normal citizens would be in a different location than Onaka’s office or wherever the LFBC was supposedly copied.

Isn’t it possible that these two offices were using two different security papers?

You have raised a question about the paper, but I don’t seen the basis for an evidentiary, court-ready conclusion.


185 posted on 08/11/2013 9:18:22 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: butterdezillion

NBC has replied to your comment (excerpted to exclude snark):

http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/butterdezillion/

BZ: Why would they scan it on the Xerox and not save it until it was on a Mac? They didn’t do that with the tax return NBC cites. Of course, that tax return is the only one that mentions Xerox WorkCentre. If the Xerox does all scans in landscape orientation, then wouldn’t the tax form be sideways unless it was first previewed, rotated, and then saved – yielding a PDF producer other than the Xerox?

NBC: The Xerox scanner sends the document as an email. Since it was scanned up-side-down, the person who opened it on the Mac rotated it and saved it. If you look at the images at the PDF level, they are rotated in landscape format.

BZ:I knew something was screwy with the WH long-form file when I tried C&P-ing it into a Word document and it showed the haloes. I wanted to test whether the same thing happened with other documents scanned and posted at whitehouse.gov but my computers are giving me trouble again.

NBC: The haloes are interesting and I believe can be explained by the MRC process which separates the fore and background, encodes the foreground as a bitmap and the background as JPEG. The jpeg now has white holes were the text was and this bleeds through. Worse the jpeg gets subsampled to half the resolution, further bleeding white into the visible area.


230 posted on 08/11/2013 3:26:12 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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