[Seizethecarp]

Per GregNH:

“All of this assumes there was a paper original. One has not been seen.”

Per NBC:

“I printed out the Whitehouse PDF and scanned it back in.”

NBC claims to have simply printed out a color copy of the WH pdf and then scanned it back into the Xerox 7655. If this is true then there COULD have been a hard copy original...which itself could have been a forgery for numerous suspected reasons unrelated to the layers and floating Onaka and date blocks.

Obots have always claimed that “birthers” would claim that the hard copy supposedly brought back to the WH was a forgery, if it was ever proved that the pdf layers could be replicated. Given the mysterious failure to find the original for years in the HI vault, even by the current governor, forgery is still obviously a possibility.

Reed Hayes 40-page report to Zullo affirming forgery could well have little to do with the pdf layers and may be based on other anomalies.

[TheCipher]

NBC claims to have simply printed out a color copy of the WH pdf and then scanned it back into the Xerox 7655.

Which invalidates any "analysis" of the haloing since the printed copy of the WH PDF already has the haloing in it.

[Sgt_Schultze]

My big problem with this "document" is that it is offered as something that was scanned. Yet when the clipping masks in the layered pdf version are released, there are bitmaps with varied resolutions. If this object were, in fact a single scan, then all objects that might release should be the same resolution, irrespective of their sizes.

For instance, the Alvin T Onaka signature is an embedded black and white, 1 bit colorized bitmap, 76.735 by 1172.87 ppi resolution. The main information block is also the same type of bitmap, but its resolution is 239.802 by 375.31 ppi. The date in box 20 has a resolution of 65.278 by 1378.69 ppi. These different resolutions of objects, supposedly scanned by a single machine at once from a single document, makes me look askance at the claim this is an actual scan.

I'd be interested in finding out if the "debunkers" are able to achieve multiple bitmap resolutions on their Xerox 7655.

[Mr. K]

it is not JUST the pdf layers, it is also what is ON those layers.

You have black and white layers, greyscale layers, different fonts in different layers, different pixel resolution, ALL of which prove that it was put together from OTHER documents.

On top of that you have straight lines that should curve, centered text rather than left aligned (as would happen on a manual typerwiter), number sequence that is impossible, etc etc..

A governemnt expert has certified that this is a forgery. this is the same expert used in the past by Obama’s own attorneys.