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Lt. Mike Zullo: Source 'In Position To Know' Confirms Obama Was Never Born At Kapi'olani Hospital
Mike Zullo ^ | 7-29-2013

Posted on 07/30/2013 9:03:55 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

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To: GregNH

Hmm, didn’t lead to the White House, but may have lead to someone not in the WH.


281 posted on 07/31/2013 2:29:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
...There have been threads about “oh look, a child of the Kenyan in the Kenyan archives born in 1961 in Kenya”. etc.

And everyone jumped onto the wagon, no one thought to ask themselves, when was the Peter Firstbrook book published, is it possible someone who read it picked up that bit about Kezia having a child while the kenyan was in Hawaii? No. Apparently it was far more exciting to suggest Stanley Ann Dunham went to Kenya to have a child. Rubbish.

Until people let go of that mother-myth, and realize the reason no one saw her in Hawaii or saw her pregnant was simply because she wasn't either...they'll find nothing.

282 posted on 07/31/2013 2:51:04 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: GregNH
"I was a lurker at the time and that thread got me to sign up, happened to be the reported birth date of his nothingness."

Same here for me, with the "Auntie Thread." Unfortunate about your signup date. Every FR "birthday" ends up being a reminder of the sorry state of affairs, vis a vis "Obama" still illegally wielding the levers of Executive power.

283 posted on 07/31/2013 3:01:05 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (No more usurpers.)
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To: GregNH
IIRC Zullo mentioned in one of interviews that he had chased some information in Seattle that didn't lead anywhere.

He probably talked to the baby-sitter, who told Charlette Le Fevre she baby-sat for ANNA when her own daughter, who was born in January 1959, was 18 months old. And Charlette wrote that up as being February 1962 because she's an idiot. And when questioned by WND, the same baby-sitter 'corrected' herself and said it must have been in August 1961, because the child she babysat was seven months old. Which takes you back to JANUARY 1961, in both cases. Then, miraculously, appears a transcript for OBAMA, Stanley Ann Dunham for the U of WA, commencing September 19, for a semester that didn't start until September 25. Whoops! Just a little mistake...wrong names, wrong dates, faulty memories, and now we are told by resident critics that the baby-sitter is an old woman who can't remember...SHE LIES! The baby-sitter didn't identify the woman at the address in Seattle as SAD, she called her ANNA. It was Charlette who turned her into SAD. ANNA OBAMA. GET IT? ANNA OBAMA was living at the Seattle address, and she was there BEORE AND AFTER Stanley Ann Dunham visited Susan Blake, and told her she was going to BOSTON THAT DAY. Susan said she never saw her again after that visit.

284 posted on 07/31/2013 3:10:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; Fred Nerks

Not an American but doing the work Americans should be doing... Well, some Americans are doing; but the damage Zero and his enablers/assistants/string pullers are doing is global.


285 posted on 07/31/2013 3:11:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

First you have to empty your cup...

Clinging onto misconceptions is the very best way to never know the truth. It’s humbling to admit “Gosh, I really don’t know”. Or “Gosh, I thought something true that wasn’t”, or hardest of all admitting “Gee, I was totally wrong!”.

But everyone can use some humbling, it’s good for the soul.

Plus then people can see the truth so much more easily.

(In all areas of life.)


286 posted on 07/31/2013 3:17:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: GregNH

http://www.seattlechatclub.org/News.html

Mary Toutonghi who now lives in Soldatna Alaska, (2) recalls Barack as ³a really alert baby, very happy and a good size². She does not remember him ever crying (although she adds she is sure he likely did but does not remember any undue fussing). She recalls as best she can the dates she baby sat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 and that would have placed the months of baby sitting Barack in January and February of 1962. [Note: 9/3/09: I believe Mary’s daughter was older than what she remembered which would account for the age discrepency].

During our first interview, Mary referred to Stanley Ann Dunham as ³Anna² not knowing that it was the same name as what was listed in the Seattle City Directory. This verified for us that indeed Mary had known Ann Dunham.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxkuIfr4k3TUFfGroKHVf2OiXhhC70unlfkMzcvOvbmuMsDH7UkA


287 posted on 07/31/2013 3:21:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

FWIW: That aunt’s name was Eleanor Belle Dunham Berkebile, wife of Ralph L. Berkebile, half-sister of Stanley Armour Dunham. She had twin sons, Stephen and Michael, who died in Canada, shortly after their births in 1959. Their bodies were sent to Kansas for burial. Ralph was in the military and was stationed at a USAF base in Canada at the time, but he apparently enlisted in Alaska. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvpid=8782453&GRid=34580925&; Although her sons were born in Canada, the records from when their bodies were returned to the USA refer to them as “native citizens” of the USA. These records are in the NARA database. Some of the Berkebiles also lived at times in Blaine, Washington, very near the border. I’ve never seen a photo of this aunt.


288 posted on 07/31/2013 3:28:58 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: butterdezillion
...There isn’t direct evidence that the INS records were forged, fabricated, or altered, but we do know they spent a long time resisting disclosure of those records. We also know that BHO didn’t claim to have a US citizen son on one of those records, at a time when it would have been to his advantage...

Don't get me started...! What about Sally Jacobs having the unredacted immigration file for two years before the redacted file was released to SMATHERS? Why was it necessary to hide the name of the parents who complained about the kenyan running around with 'girls' in Hawaii? Who were the girls, who was the parent who complained, whose daughter actually did find herself pregnant and ended up living in that boarding house in Seattle?

Who was Ann S Obama listed in the Polk at the house in Honolulu that the Dunhams shared with his employer, the Pratt family? Why can't the Pratt daughter remember a Dunham daughter, let alone a daughter with a newborn? Why couldn't the neighbour who lived there during that period, who was still alive when questioned in 2008 iirc...(see Long Thread) remember the Dunhams having a daughter with a baby?

Why does the name BHO2 appear almost as an afterthought in the INS docs, written in the same hand as it is on a memo signed by some fellow named Woods, attesting to the name and address of the 'parents' ... Is it acceptable that another hand completes a document after that document had been signed and submitted? We can't ask the kenyan if he really did cross out the name of his wife and replace the name with another...because he's dead. After 1982, when he was killed, and Barry became Barack, heaven knows what was deleted/added to the record. In that year, 1982, zero first met William Ayres, recall. So many perps, so many opportunities. And that 'adoption memo' - how blatant is that? The name of the person supposedly making arrangements with the Salvation Army, TRUNCATED so we can't read it. What a huge steaming pile of marure it all is...

289 posted on 07/31/2013 3:49:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: GregNH

“Did we ever determine what this news clipping was?”

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7OF2GLOOhufGg684cxyFDoq_ypHIEfWgNKu6MzNVlJYeAK05E


290 posted on 07/31/2013 3:55:08 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Greenperson

Thanks for that, you’re a treasure, I had forgotten them. Now we need to see if we can find just when their relatives lived in Blaine. SAD picked that child up from somewhere after borrowing a car ‘from a friend of her mother’s’ according to Susan. There might be a tie-in. Isn’t Blaine the name of the crossing between Canada and WA?


291 posted on 07/31/2013 4:06:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

“Isn’t Blaine the name of the crossing between Canada and WA?”

Yes. In Blain, there are two border crossings into Canada. It was mentioned in that article about the aunt I was posting about last night to the poster ‘1066’ or something like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaine,_Washington


292 posted on 07/31/2013 4:54:56 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Seizethecarp

What claims and what freepmails are you referring to, pray tell?


293 posted on 07/31/2013 5:12:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

ANNA OBAMA was living at the Seattle address, and she was there BEORE AND AFTER Stanley Ann Dunham visited Susan Blake, and told her she was going to BOSTON THAT DAY. Susan said she never saw her again after that visit.


Because SAD took the baby to Boston, from what I’ve read on FR. I wonder if the sister (or was it his aunt?) of Malcolm X took care of the baby, or was SAD still a caretaker for a while.


294 posted on 07/31/2013 5:15:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; Greenperson

ok, so there are relatives of the Dunham family who lived in Blaine at some unknown time, (as yet) and Blaine is a border-crossing into Canada...(I knew that, and so does the freeper who commented on it) - I daresay said freeper will now follow up and see if she can find when the relatives lived in Blaine. Other than that, it’s a nothing factoid, considering that the baby SAD showed Susan wasn’t hers. At most, what the relatives in Blaine might have been useful for is to lend her a car when she transported the baby from Canada into WA.
But then, we need to remember that Susan also said that the friends who loaned her the car lived on Mercer Island, and SAD was going to Boston that same day and she never saw her again.

Try to reconcile Mary babysitting for Anna Obama in January 1961 and/or a seven month old in August 1961 with SAD showing an almost newborn to Susan in late August 1961 and see how you get on.


295 posted on 07/31/2013 5:26:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Ella+Lee+Little-Collins

AUNT ELLA IN BOSTON.


296 posted on 07/31/2013 5:47:35 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Fred, what ever became of this ‘Anna’ Obama? What kind of work did she do? Where did she live after Obama was born? Is she still alive today?


297 posted on 07/31/2013 5:53:50 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: little jeremiah

When you try to hammer a square peg into a round hole, or turn Anna Obama into Stanley Ann Dunham, it ends up something like this:

From early 2008 on, Blake’s and Box’s recollections agree with the fable in Dreams: Ann and Obama Sr. were madly in love. He left Ann to go to Harvard, and she followed, with child in tow, to be with him. These recollections, however, are simply impossible. In reality, Ann Dunham was not “visiting” Seattle. She moved there by August 1961 and began class at the University of Washington that fall semester.

Ann could not have been on her way to Harvard or even have mentioned Harvard. No one, including Obama Sr., knew he was going to Harvard until May of 1962. Blake, however, anchors the date of the visit to late August 1961 by referring to a young baby, “pink and very new.” If we accept the president’s date of birth as August 4, 1961, then Blake has to be talking about 1961. In fact, she describes the baby as being about “three weeks old,” a much too specific recollection.

Blake’s description of Ann as being “nuts about him, crazy in love” does not mesh with reality. Ann had just left Obama Sr. for good. The marriage, if indeed there was one, did not fall apart “a few years later” as Box stated. It had already fallen apart.

In an August 2008 Washington Post article, ace reporter David Maraniss took a crack at telling the Obama origins story. Despite the fact that he was writing a lengthy biographical piece on the next president three months before the election, and in the Washington Post, no less, Maraniss made a hash of it.

Maraniss acknowledges that Obama Sr. graduated from the University of Hawaii in June 1962. “Then,” he writes, “before the month was out, he took off, leaving behind his still-teenage wife and namesake child.” By “behind” he means Hawaii. As Maraniss tells it, Ann and the baby followed Obama Sr. to Harvard, but first they stopped in Seattle for a visit.

Yes, Ann drops by Blake’s mother’s house with the baby for iced tea and sugar cookies, but here Blake’s story changes again. “[Ann] was on her way from her mother’s house to Boston to be with her husband,” she tells Maraniss. “[She said] he had transferred to grad school and she was going to join him.” Blake adds, “She seemed so confident and self-assured and relaxed. She was leaving the next day to fly on to Boston.”

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/dreams_from_ann_dunhams_girlfriends.html#ixzz2afrzz0ni
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298 posted on 07/31/2013 5:57:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Aunt Ella, thank you. I was thinking “Emma/Ella”.

Do you have any idea if SAD stayed in Boston as nanny or did someone else take over at that time?


299 posted on 07/31/2013 6:02:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

I’ll just jump in for a minute. She went to Seattle apparently not too long after the child was born and Mary Toutonghi babysat the child for some months.

On 0bama the Kenyan’s immigration documents there is a mention of a wife in the Philippines at some point but I can’t put my finger on the time frame. From my reading, Anna 0bama was most likely of Filipino extraction, maybe even born there? In HI there are tons of Filipinos, and at that time many were first or second generation.


300 posted on 07/31/2013 6:05:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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