Posted on 07/19/2013 8:45:12 AM PDT by roofgoat
and like “MAGIC”, almost all media outlets this week have articles/stories/videos hyping all the racism from white america in every form. Everyone of color has a story to tell.
Just like back a few years ago before we knew what the operation was called by the Fed Govt, articles and news segments of the “River of Guns” from the US to Mexico.
Anyone remember the tidal wave of stories on how gun shows and gun owners were all to blame for the murders and violence south of the border? The MSM are good little children regarding listening to their Dad’s instructions.
People that live in gated communities with private security abhor violence. they can't understand why private citizens should be allowed guns. In their world they have an attorney on retainer to address any misunderstandings that might come up.
In inner city neighborhoods, there is danger of violence around every corner. If you can't acquire a gun you get the meanest pit bull you can find.
Even in middle income neighborhoods it is wise to have a gun to protect your home and family. The government cannot protect you in an emergency. I believe it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.
” in our neighborhoods”
I love the coded language!
Tenacious, I have read similar comments before on gun sites. Let me respectfully disagree.
Laws are for chumps now. Regardless what your State Constitution says, this Regime scoffs. And make no mistake, they are the Muscle. Local/State Authority will buckle to demands from the Muscle if/when they make their call.
The email campaign setup by the DOJ regarding “Did Zimmerman ever say anything that had racial overtones” tells us that they will do WHATEVER they want and be prepared to spend your life in court.
I can’t argue your points. Laws and the constitutionality of them are indeed farcical these days. And, as we have seen with Obamacare, states can be bought.
I believe, however, the one thing the gun debate/issue has that few other issues have is that a lot of liberals also are 2A supporters, gun owners and licensed CCW. Some may be closet supporters. I’m from IN and know some liberals that are also ardent gun enthusiasts (head spins here). These folks openly admit that their party’s position on guns is wrong and they go against it. I expect (maybe hope) this is more common than is known or reported.
This is why I say (today anyway) the states enjoy the freedoms (albeit diminished) to govern their own gun laws. But I agree, the Fed will find a way to control the individual and try and make the states happy about it. But as it stands now, they’ll have to regulate something other than the consumer.
Fine. But only if Secret Service no longer covers and protects your a$$. Fair enough, Mr. Holder????
Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground were responses to opportunistic scumbag Prosecutors going after citizens who had the gall to actually defend themselves, their families, homes, and property from the dregs of society.
Holder, Obama, and their ilk believe that crime is a result of social ills like poverty, inequality, etc; Or at least that is their excuse. Therefore, the “victim” is really at fault and self-defense is violation of the criminal’s “civil rights.”
I am firmly convinced that this is how they think and this response is simply a way of expressing it.
This from the man who gave guns and rifles to the Mexican Drug Cartels.
This comment led to a spirited debate years ago (college days) about violence and self defense. (how to shorten this story....?)
Violence never solves anything. Police are there if guns are needed. If only police had guns, citizens could defend themselves with pepper spray.... so their arguments went on.
I offered we set up a hypothetical experiment and invited them to make a supposition on the results. One of them (peacenick gungrabbers) would volunteer to spend 72 hours locked in a room. They would sign waivers that there would be absolutely no legal retribution or consequences for what happened in that 72 hours. No law would be applied. They would be armed with a gun that they could use at any time. Over the next 72 hours various sex offenders, murderers, deranged maniacs and other violent repeat criminal felons would visit them in the room with a promise of payment to the person that does the worst to them.
Do you think the peacenick gun grabber will use the gun in the 72 hours of confinement? Why or why not?
Their refusal to answer spoke volumes and at least one girl changed her position from absolutely never to maybe depending on the person and circumstances (owning and carrying a gun).
One idiot said he's shoot himself first. "So you would use the gun after all." LOL.
“This from the man who gave guns and rifles to the Mexican Drug Cartels”
The Audacity of him....wait, didn’t someone write a book about Audacity?
God bless the children inheriting this country. I sincerely hope the are able to turn the ship around.
As it's done everywhere else it's come to power, Marxism will fail here, too, if only because it's intrinsically anti-realistic and unstable, if only because Marxists are looters and rapists and armed robbers and extortionists and murders, not inventors or builders or creators or workers or managers. I believe the only two questions are:
1.) How soon will Marxism fail in America?
2.) How many innocent lives will be lost and damage suffered before Marxism finishes collapsing?
If I had answers, I sure wouldn't keep them to myself.
Point one: self defense is not senseless. It is rational, moral and necessary if a people are to retain any sense of freedom.
Point two:The inclusion of sow dangerous conflict with self defense is either an attempt to state a false cause analogy ie guns cause conflict or to infer that self-defense causes conflict. But guns just are, inanimate matter, they are not a proximate nor a first cause, they have no will no motive, no ability to reason or ability to take offense. Self defense also cannot cause conflict it is a response to existing conflict. Hence cannot sow conflict but are more like the fruit or harvest of conflict.
Travon does not get shot if he does not engage an encounter with violence. No expansion of self defense can rationally be included as a cause. The immediate cause was Trayvon administering "whoop ass". If George Zimmerman had done the same Travon would have been legally and morally justified in defending himself. Had GZ not had a gun he might also be dead, hence the need for self defense.
Moral of the story: live like a thug - die like a thug. Survival is the first duty absent a act of sacrifice to preserve others. Threaten the life of others and expect them to defend their lives, expect their loved ones to engage the defense, expect friends and neighbors to defend their own expect that they will defend even if you must forfeit your own. Disarming the victims has never worked, killing bad guys has much better track record.
Note to would-be thugs criminals and mischief makers; act civilized, behave in an nonthreatening manner follow the law and peace be with you! Threaten, mug, steal, rape, whoop ass, and generally sow discord and violence then you will reap a whirl wind - whirl wind now available in 9mm HP.
How about a betting pool on the month and year we will no longer have a right of self defense and must cower in the presence of human debris criminals AND our own government?
In NYS we are pretty much there.
I used to think the book “The Turner Diaries” was simply a racist book of fiction about a future USA which in reality could never exist.
Then like “1984” all of a sudden I see the book may have started out as fiction but fiction became reality and we are living in “The Turner Diaries”.
Given how embedded our enemies are within our government, media, universities, unionize public schools, I am convinced the reality outcome will not be as good as the fictional outcome.
Its a rough, racist book to read but if you can get beyond that, it is amazing how much is now reality.
No wonder it was PART of why Tim McViegh went bonkers after Waco.
I have read the “Turner diaries”; didn’t care for the anti-semitic parts but I believe that in many ways it was prophetic.
I think it is fair to say we have an anti-semitic president based on his actions and that just fortifies my feeling that the book was a look into today’s America.
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