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To: Sam Gamgee

Again, your words reflect German propaganda, not historical facts.
In recent decades German scholars have carefully examined archived records from 1914, and it’s just not debatable that the German high command, with the Kaiser’s approval, pushed the very reluctant Austrians into declaring war on Serbia.

After years of preparations, trials and delays by 1914 the Kaiser was ready to make his big move, especially after the murder of his friend, the Austrian Archduke.

Of course, no German civilian wanted war, and very few ever suspected their own government was guilty of starting it.
But the documents are clear, and if you want a single name most responsible, that would be, iirc, a von Molke the younger.
But he certainly did not act on his own, they were all in on it, including the kaiser.

Will provide references when more time...


179 posted on 07/15/2013 12:44:17 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: Sam Gamgee; Borges; donmeaker; AnalogReigns
Here is my main source: David Fromkin, "Europe's Last Summer: Who Started the Great War in 1914?".
I'm sure there are others which make the same points.

Fromkin's book should be read together -- side by side -- with Barbara Tuchman's "Guns of August".
They compliment, they don't contradict each other.


180 posted on 07/16/2013 7:07:37 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

SLA Marshall suggested that when the rush to war was about to break down, Moltke was given orders to stop the advance on France. He refused, as the orders to attack had already been given.


197 posted on 07/17/2013 7:14:05 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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