Posted on 06/25/2013 3:02:39 PM PDT by Kartographer
Firewood???
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
#15- 53 percent of all Americans do not have a 3 day supply of nonperishable food and water in their homes.
That is 53 out of 100 people do not have a 3 day supply of nonperishable food and water in their homes.
Marcella - you have pointed out the one fact that is mind boggling to me, and a good indicator of the potential danger those mindless people represent - not only to themselves, but to those of us who do have the forethought to have some food and water on hand.
Statistics like that trigger the same two reactions for me every time I see them:
First - I see pictures of Katrina flash through again.
The large numbers people who were too stupid to even hang onto or scrounge an empty milk jug or soda bottle to fill with tap water before the storm hit was absolutely astounding.
Empty plastic bottles and potable tap water are available for free everywhere but there were huge mobs without a water bottle among them.
And it's not as if Katrina dropped on them by surprise like a tornado.
They had days of warnings and a lot of time to make some basic no-cost preparations.
Secondly - I think of how many people just like that live within a days walk of where I live.
In all seriousness - that motivates me to stay on top of my preps - Fill up some more water jugs, buy a few more cans of beans on sale and check the existing water and food stores.
I suppose you could use them to bribe the local goons to kill somebody else instead of you.
Personally I see it every time I go to the store and the price of milk has crept up a bit more. Two years ago I could buy two gallons of milk on sale for four dollars. Today it is five.
I have the reputation of “Mr. crappie” at the POA fishing marina. I caught 14 on Wednesday, 8 on Thursday and 15 on Friday. My freezer is so full, I gave away most of those. Every one of those was caught using jigs, so no money expended on live bait. We love fresh fried fish.
Glad you found my manual useful.
The posts about squirrels and rabbits made me think. We are in a long running drought and there are very few of them so I was trying to think of something that we’d have to eat and I thought of yucca root...we’ll never starve!
You can be thrown out. Try not paying your real estate/personal property taxes.
Will you send me the same data through freep mail? Thanks,
Hmm, for later...
My guess would be the 2014 elections. If it goes thier way they will continue thier plans if it doesnt they will resort to desparate measures
Part of prepping is not being in a desert without water in the first place.
I do see your point. But, that situation is already part of the calculation.
I do not see civilization being restored to the stone age. I see a depression not an EMP burst.
I have seen what you are talking about myself. My point is that all of the inflation you are seeing in gold, oil, milk is being offset by our inability to demand higher wages. That leads to deflation. When our wages do not keep pace with prices then the prices will have to come down or the manufactures of the milk will go out of business. As the price of milk begins to fall to meet the real price they will either cut their workers wages and lead to further reductions.
During the depression the Fed starved the market of liquidity. In our current situation, the have gorged the economy with liquidity. The fundamental problem was the same in 1929 as it was in 2008 and is still today. Household debt is driving our economy. Much of the household debt in 2008 was transferred to FED balance sheet via Too Big Too Fail. Then with the explosion of govt workers the $85 billion/ month is simply to keep them afloat has the FED hopes we find the bottom to the recession.
The FED announced an end to that scheme soon. And with that end will come the layoffs and prices will fall as demand will fall. Many of the households kept afloat via govt jobs will join the ranks of the private sector and deal with reality too.
When the FED stops their scheme then the value of holding cash will become important as those without sell at pennies on the dollar.
But, I do see your point.
Might I get on your prepper ping list?
Thanks....
If you live out in the country like me, a real good investment is a deep water water well with backup generator. Talk about a bartering chip come SHTF time.
I give you two recent historical scenarios Argentina money still usable with some (Dollars for example) more easily excepted and maintaining value throughout the whole crisis. Bosnia not so much, barter soon was the way of most exchanges.
Also there this like war plans, prep plans are good, but it’s funny how what we see happen is so seldom what does.
“The fundamental problem was the same in 1929 as it was in 2008 and is still today. Household debt is driving our economy.”
A key difference between today and 1929 is the absence of a domestic industrial infrastructure to supply the economy. Foreign trade accounted for about 5% of GDP in 1929, of which half was manufactured goods and half was agriculture. Essential the USA was self sufficient, making its own manufactured products and growing its own food. When demand declined, the factories were idled. As the country geared up for WWII the factories reopened and employed the population. After WWII the factories converted from military production to producing consumer goods for which there was pent up demand after the extended period of wartime rationing.
In the 1960’s, 70’s and 80’s, government responded to recessions by putting cash in people’s hands through tax rebates and tax rate reductions. The extra cash was spent on goods and services. The goods were produced inside the USA so the increased demand resulted in the need for factories to return furloughed employees to work thereby resulting in more demand. Government “stimulus” could actually prime the pump.
In recent times we’ve discover huge amounts of stimulus through direct transfer payments or even tax rate reductions (Bush tax cuts) do not have the effect smaller measures had in previous decades on employment. Here is the impact of sending our factories overseas. When demand increases the production is not inside the USA so the jobs created do not reduce domestic unemployment.
The free trade policies our nation has pursued over the past 25 years have consequences with respect to employment as well as national security.
Even if everyone stored enough food or supplies to survive a couple of months, many of them would not see any point in continuing the struggle. They wouldn’t survive the shock.
There are getting to be too few people capable of putting the systems back in place after they fly apart. Government might try to get systems up and running, but I would not bet money on them succeeding.
A nation of small armies fighting over the scavenge-able resources that are left.
Fertilizer for your corn crop? The natives used to bury fish guts and heads with the planted corn.
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