Team Arpaio: We Have Two 1961 Hawaiian Birth Certificates That List Negro Not African

Mike Zullo ^ | 6-20-2013

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

Sheriff Arpaio's lead investigator Mike Zullo just concluded a new interview this afternoon at 3:30pm central time and revealed that he will get Congressional movement on Obama's fraudulent documents after their summer break. He also revealed that they have in possession two Hawaiian birth certificates from 1961 that reveal that the term 'Negro' was used for black babies instead of the term 'African'.

[Fred Nerks]

It’s not compulsory reading, you can go to any other thread that interests you more.

[Ladysforest]

Those are records, not stats. If there are no masculine entries with that acronym, then it cannot possibly mean “Mean Absolute Error”.

Not bustin your chops, but I did not find any masculine entries with MAE.

If you know anything of me and my research, you know I take NO credit for anything. The credit goes to the little group that I worked with. I just need you to understand that I was very hands on in this material that you are opining on. I would rather things are kept sans confusion.

[Ray76]

Birth/death records are records. Statistical analysis of those records may be done, the records are not in and of themselves statistics. A duplicate record would not be marked “mean absolute error”. Mean absolute error measures the average magnitude of errors in a set of forecasts/estimates are from actual values.

MAE is a name, like all the other names listed.

[Fred Nerks]

And from this you extrapolate that Virginia Sunahara never had a birth certificate issued in the name of her father and that there's nothing odd about a birth certificate (she didn't need) being issued two weeks after her birth with a certificate number 400 + numbers in the future? That there's nothing odd about a duplicate entry appearing directly above the entry for zero on the index? That one moment, MAE isn't a proper first name according to your observation, and then suddenly it is? Good heavens it's no wonder they get away with it. And btw, condolences for your loss. But it really doesn't change what we see. The dates and names just don't add up.

The Science Isn't Settled unless you are Al Gore.

[Fred Nerks]

And just what do they use for their statistical analysis? LISTS?

Forget it, you have no more idea what MAE stands for in that context than I have, but at least I’m asking questions.

[Ray76]

“And just what do they use for their statistical analysis? LISTS?” <—— Doesn’t make sense.

You never heard of the name “Mae”?

[GBA]

Well, you’re right. I guess I hadn’t thought of that. Aren’t you a helpful and compelling poster here on this subject! Thank you so much. That’s the kind of attitude that draws people in and inspires one and all to help with your cause.

[Ray76]

Not giving you a hard time, but you are getting attached to a ridiculous idea.

[Ray76]

The list of names on a page of the Birth Index

posted at:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3033738/posts?page=286#286

[Ladysforest]

I extrapolate nothing at all about Virginias’ BC. She had one, her mother said so. I have not seen it, so I do not know which name was on it “first”.

As to the “numbering” of the HI BC’s - well, if YOU can get a straight answer from the HI DOH I’d be happy to hear it! I’d even pay you for it!

We know how it is done elsewhere. We know how it should be done, but we DON’T know how it was actually done in August of 1961 in HI - because HI refuses to share that with us.

I certainly think it’s off that a “duplicate” entry appeared above obamas in the Birth Index. I did blog about that you know. I also spent a LOT of money trying to get official answers as to what “duplicate” meant - no answer was provided, ever.

I never said Mae wasn’t a first name. You made that leap. I was speaking about the one particular entry having Mae as a middle name. That was all.

[Fred Nerks]

Yep, that’s the image I posted.

OBADO, DUPLICATE MAE.

And from that, you assume they duplicated an entry for Mae Obado?

[Ray76]

I assume nothing but that is more plausible than “mean absolute error”, which doesn’t even make sense in this context.

Mean absolute error is a measure of errors in estimated versus actual values.

[Fred Nerks]

And just the sort of ambiguous term the people who put out the list for public consumption would use, an acronym for a measure of errors in estimated versus actual values that would be a familiar term to someone involved with statistics? Like someone in the HDOH Vital Statistics?

Something that would look like a name but is an acronym for Mean Obsolute Error? But I'll take your advice, I'll give it a miss. Asking questions after the 'science is all settled' gets me nothing but insults.

[Ray76]

http://www.springerreference.com/docs/html/chapterdbid/179237.html

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MeanDeviation.html

I don’t know if others have insulted you, but I haven’t.

[Fred Nerks]

Thanks, it’s all somewhat above my head, but it doesn’t need to mean anything, it only has to be ambiguous enough to appear to be genuine, and cover over something we aren’t supposed to see.
So that if anyone tries to delve into it a little deeper than what appears on the surface, they can be accused of being an idiot.
Just something that stops the questions, is what works. And that acronym is perfect.

The Index printed out a name that without ‘adjustment’ would have created a serious problem.

OBADO DUPLICATE MAE FIXED IT.

There wasn’t a child born named Mae Obado. There was no duplication imo.

[GBA]

Asking questions after the 'science is all settled' gets me nothing but insults.

As does asking you for clarification, when no insult was intended by asking.

Cheers

[Fred Nerks]

You asked me questions which I would have needed to write a book to reply to. I suggested you read through the thread, where some of what you wanted to know could be found. You want cliff notes? Why? Because you aren’t prepared to read through a thread?
And frankly, most of your questions didn’t make any sense.

[Fred Nerks]

I'll chose two questions and try to answer...

Something else that confuses me about your theories, why would a proud "don't you be callin' me a Negro" Kenyan born African let his son be claimed, so to speak, by the Americans, no matter where his son's bio-mom might be from?

The kenyan didn't 'allow his son to be claimed, so to speak, by the Americans...' he took that boy, who was born in January 1961 back to Kenya with him. I posted a photograph of the boy with his father, and his stepmother Ruth - who is holding their son Mark.

Would he believe that his nationality and citizenship also belongs to his Son, he is Kenyan, so his son is also Kenyan, or does he let the white American woman claim him for her country?

I tried to answer that, but cancelled the attempt. You apparently are convinced the kenyan student was the father of zero.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3033738/posts?page=188#188

That’s zero on the left and little BHO2 on the right, and that’s why Malik said he remembers growing up with him when they were children. In Kenya.

[little jeremiah]

The pivot, the crux of the matter is exactly what you just said.

There is the Kenyan 0bama, and he had a son. The mother of that son was not Stanley Ann Dunham.

That son is not the man in the White House.