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To: spetznaz; GladesGuru; Squantos
Simunition

Thanks!

From the description, it sounds pricey, but I found 50-round boxes at $0.90/round in 9mm. I'd suspect that in a bulk buy for a training facility they could get it for half to two-thirds as much.

All of that would mean that one would not have to arrange for a lot of land in a remote location forcing customers drive forever. It would make an urban setting into an affordable business, as the buildings would already be there. Nor would it be necessary to clear the area in some cases... Why, I'd suspect one could pick up an appropriate location in Detroit for next to nothing! Additional urban ferals with which to enhance the sense of realism would be free! Not to mention the occasional call to prayer floating across the landscape, all for effect...

Of course, one might have to fight their way in to get to the facility. ;-)

7 posted on 06/09/2013 8:07:39 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie

And save enough ammo to fight they’re way back out....:o)

Simunitions has the sting factor going for it.... You play laser tag you take chances IMO. You play simunitions tag you know it will hurt. Thus IMO comes what a lot of training can’t bring.

Fear.

When you do a shoot house or simunitions range etc one will gray out, get tunnel vision etc and do some really really bizarre stupid things such as two speed reloads without firing a shot. You mind is taxed to the nth degree and stress is imposed.

A really good shoot house will present sounds, visual distractions be they threats or non threats. Last one I trained at had a pigeon coop inside. Birds flying up and down the corridors, lots of birds and the associated crap to slip and slide in.

My instructor was guarding my six with a mp5. He would shoot short and long bursts as we cleared the structure. It’s very very hard to not look at what he was or wasn’t shooting at behind me. Did he hit his target, was he hit and my back was now vulnerable ? Other players were very good and when or if you turned to check they nailed ya.

Good stress, loud noise, no noise, low light, no light, distractions live or inanimate , tired from running, exertion heat sweat or even having a instructor place a couple of marbles in your boots to create pain as you move to contact etc.... Tactics, skill sets and muscle memory reaction learned thru repetition , failure or success repetition is key to overcome the minds desire to make one do such silly crap that will get you or yours kilt DRT (dead right there).....

I believe that targets that do not shoot back are great for shooting as one heel toes the route into and out of danger is fine.

But to apply stress....... Fun fun fun.

Stay safe !


11 posted on 06/09/2013 9:46:57 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Carry_Okie

“Of course, one might have to fight their way in to get to the facility. ;-) “

Michigan does have relaxed gun transportation laws.

Loading an AR-15 takes only a few seconds, and a ride to such a training facility in such a location would enhance “Situational Awareness” training.

Given the present trajectory of Urban Feral attacks, the day may come when those moving into or out of Urban Feral habitat might well have to convoy up.

Hmmmn - think of shooting buffalo from a moving train. Who said history does not repeat itself?


12 posted on 06/09/2013 9:51:59 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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