Posted on 05/16/2013 10:28:12 AM PDT by joeclarke
Thanks for posting
We had US attack jets running around the clock rapid response air strike and ground support mission to support and protect under attack Al Qaeda terrorists but we can’t send them in to protect our Ambassador and Embassy when it’s under attack.
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Obama the Undocumented Moslem followed
the Code of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
that he MUST protect all Moslem terrorists.
And by allah, benGhazi Hussein Obama did just that.
Point is, the guy who first got the call should have assessed what was needed, what assets were closest and sent them. Consequences be damned. Maybe there could have been a chance to save 2 of the 4. In a circumstance like that you don’t pussy foot around. You support your people. Would this cast doubt in your mind for a similar occurrence in the future? Does someone have your back? Does anybody have your back. Sure would make me have second thoughts. Screw a bunch of meetings and phone calls. Take care of your people first and foremost. Of course if you’re a scumbag you only think of yourself and how you’ll look.
400 miles to the Air Force Base.
A commercial jet flies faster than 400 miles PER HOUR.
Proving once again that 0bambi is a lying, traitorous, sack of excrement.
There’s not a spot on this planet that our military can’t get to in a couple of hours. So I didn’t buy that excuse from the beginning.
so.. we could have planes dropping pig manures and pork kabobs and we didn’t send them? oh man.
Yep. You use whatever you have. I remember a movie about the restarting of Israel. Frank Sinatra played a pilot with the Israelis. He was flying a Piper Cub or something that size. His mission was to drop seltzer bottles on the enemy. They didn’t have regular bombs and the seltzer bottles made a good pop when they hit the ground. He had a rifle with him for aerial combat. He got into a dogfight with a real fighter plane and his rifle jammed or ran out of ammunition. He picked up a seltzer bottle and sprayed seltzer at the enemy fighter. That is the kind of behavior I expect from American pilots. Dogged determination. If they don’t have that, then they should be spraying for grasshoppers. I expect that same dogged determination from our admirals and generals and high ranking government officials.
"Once the attack commenced at 10:00 p.m. Libyan time (4:00 p.m. EST), we know the mission security staff immediately contacted Washington and our embassy in Tripoli. It now appears the White House, Pentagon, State Department, CIA, NDI, JCS and various other military commands monitored the entire battle in real time via frantic phone calls from our compound and video from an overhead drone. The cries for help and support went unanswered."
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This does not even include the planes on ready alert or in the skies already from the carrier group in the Med.
The Admiral commanding the group in the Med was relieved of command shortly after Benghazi.
Gee I wonder why?
That testimony - 20 hours, really? - was so embarrassing I couldn’t believe it, and a slap in the face of the military who know damn well they’re better than that. Those guys were left hung out to dry and everyone knows it.
Says the man who has been "to see the Tiger"! I'd trust the word of Lieutenant Colonel Dan Hampton over Panetta or Dempsey any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Timid chair bound bureaucrats get people killed, flame breathing warriors know the score and get the job done.
Panetta looks like a "green grocer"! I'd rather see "mighty mouse" as Sec Def.
Regards,
GtG
And if you want an American example, look at the first American torpedo bomber squadron to attack at Midway. They were coming in low and slow. The Japanese fighters had to come down from up high to get the Americans. And they got them. They shot down every plane in that American squadron. Can you imagine sitting in a slow American torpedo bomber watching your buddies getting killed? Your natural instinct would be to break off your attack and escape. An American torpedo bomber was no match for a Japanese fighter! But the American torpedo bombers kept coming. It is said that the Japanese commander of the air units at Midway watched this attack. Another Japanese sailor looked at him with great excitement because they had destroyed every American plane in that formation. The Japanese commander is said to have remarked, “They lied to us. They told us that the Americans didn’t have Bushido (warrior spirit). They have Bushido.” Those young American pilots in those slow torpedo bombers brought the Japanese fighters to a low elevation. The American bombers and dive bombers were at a much higher elevation. The Japanese fighters could not regain height before the Americans attacked. Those American planes then destroyed the heart of the Japanese navy destroying four aircraft carriers. There were twelve young American pilots who changed the course of a World War. They kept coming. We are Americans. By God, we keep coming. Those dead American SEALs were counting on that fighting spirit to come to their aid. Obama went to bed and then went campaigning. He is an embarrassment to those twelve fine young American pilots. He is an embarrassment to all Americans. We keep coming.
They wouldn’t have been reduced to just a show and tell fly-by...The good guys on the ground had targets ‘painted’ and the pilots know they easily could have taken these targets out...
I can get from Heathrow to Tripoli in about 3 hrs on Brit Air
Awesome story. Never really thought of those 12 pilots as changing the course of the War and history but they did.
Here is a video of Rep. Chaffetz saying that Gen. Ham, commander of AFRICOM at that time, told him that assets were near enough to help and ready to go.There is no doubt whatsoever that the assets were in motion preparing to receive an order to go.AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. Youtube 1:43
Adm. James Lyons (Ret.) on Growing Benghazi Scandal
ADMIRAL LYONS: …All those comforting words that “We don’t want to put our forces at risk.” We had people at risk—they were crying for help! In a situation, you go with the resources you have available—and, in this particular case, we did have that 130-man Marine force recon team sitting there at Sigonella. Even if I only got 50 of them over there, that would have been significant in turning the situation around. We may not have been able to save the ambassador, but we certainly could have saved those other two SEALs that were over on the annex.
ADMIRAL LYONS: In perpetuating this lie, we also had administration officials lying to Congressional committees. That’s a felony. So, “What difference does it make?” It makes all the difference in the world. You cannot flaunt the truth here, just walk away from it and, basically, tell the American public to stuff it. That’s not acceptable.
The point on the organizing the two Marine anti-terrorist teams in Rota, that was good to go ahead and stand ’em up. What I find incomprehensible: The first team, it took them 23 hours to go a few hundred miles from Rota to Tripoli. I could go around the world in 23 hours, so that makes absolutely no sense to me.
There was no carrier in the Med. at that time.
“We are Americans. By God, we keep coming.”
Just Dang. I got choked up reading your post.
My father and both his brothers enlisted late in WWII.
They certainly kept coming.
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