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To: reasonisfaith
... it can only crumble under the weight of God’s truth.

The content weight of all the Bibles and Korans on Earth is nothing compared to the weight of scientific truth about evolution found in modern technical publications. The Earth, for instance, came into being about 4.6 billion years ago, long before Jesus appeared ... prompting a question. Why did God wait so long to send humans (and only humans) a savior?

28 posted on 05/11/2013 1:41:31 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: OldNavyVet; reasonisfaith

“The content weight of all the Bibles and Korans on Earth is nothing compared to the weight of scientific truth about evolution found in modern technical publications.”

When viewed from eternity, the “weight of scientific truth about evolution” won’t count for diddly. At heart, it is assuming the right to question God, to see if God is good enough to satisfy OUR morality. As CS Lewis points out in “God in the Dock”, that is ridiculous. If God is great enough to create the universe, then it is not for us to judge Him. What matters is not what we think about God, but what God thinks about us.

“We are inveterate poets. Our imaginations awake. Instead of mere quantity, we now have a quality–the sublime. Unless this were so, the merely arithmetical greatness of the galaxy would be no more impressive than the figures in the telephone directory. It is thus, in a sense, from ourselves that the material universe derives its power to over-awe us. To a mind which did not share our emotions, and lacked our imaginative energies, the argument from size would be sheerly meaningless. Men look on the starry heavens with reverence: monkeys do not.”

(CS Lewis, God in the Dock, p.41).


34 posted on 05/11/2013 1:55:02 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: OldNavyVet

4.6 billion years is a blink of the eye in eternity. And Jesus (being divine) is eternal.


38 posted on 05/11/2013 1:59:45 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: OldNavyVet

The arguments for evolution constantly change as what was supposedly scientific proof a few years ago is shown to be incorrect. You can place your faith in scientiffic journals which look ridiculous in 15 to 25 years but I will put my faith in the never changing word of God which has stood the test of time and is every bit as relevent and true today as it was the day it was written.


39 posted on 05/11/2013 2:04:00 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: OldNavyVet
"The content weight of all the Bibles and Korans on Earth is nothing compared to the weight of scientific truth about evolution found in modern technical publications."

OldNavyVet, nothing personal, but....LOL!!! ROTFL!

The Earth, for instance, came into being about 4.6 billion years ago, long before Jesus appeared ... prompting a question. Why did God wait so long to send humans (and only humans) a savior?

See, you make the mistake of believing what men tell you instead of what Jesus said. He declared in Matthew 19:4 that God made man at the beginning. Those words of Jesus clearly contradict the theory of evolution, so we know it can't be right.

There was no pain, suffering, bloodshed, or death until after the Fall. Evolution claims billions of years of death and bloodshed before man ever showed up. Again, both concepts can't be right. You have to choose one.

Don't want to hijack the thread and turn it into a crevo one, so that's my piece.

52 posted on 05/11/2013 3:00:29 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: OldNavyVet
The content weight of all the Bibles and Korans on Earth is nothing compared to the weight of scientific truth about evolution found in modern technical publications. The Earth, for instance, came into being about 4.6 billion years ago, long before Jesus appeared ... prompting a question. Why did God wait so long to send humans (and only humans) a savior?

There's so much wrong here that the only way to tackle it is in reverse order, so here goes:

The big problem w/ evolution is that it just doesn't work when you stop and think about it knowing what we know today. Darwin himself said that if something could appear that shows it could not have been evolved by successive improvements it would invalidate his theory: in short there are trillions upon trillions of counter-proofs right now - the cells that make up you, conjoined with the fact that you have a sex.
53 posted on 05/11/2013 3:03:20 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OldNavyVet

“Why did God wait so long to send humans (and only humans) a savior?”

Might I recommend “Out of the Silent Planet” by C.S. Lewis?

http://www.amazon.com/Out-Silent-Planet-Space-Trilogy/dp/0743234901/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1368310330&sr=8-1


54 posted on 05/11/2013 3:14:55 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: OldNavyVet

The God you ask about is the creator of the universe. Given this alone, there is nothing that gives any human being the standing to inquire, let alone know, God’s motives.


86 posted on 05/11/2013 5:22:09 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: OldNavyVet

There is no evidence one way or the other that Adam and Eve were in the Garden for billions of years as spiritual immortal beings. Adam lived 930 years after expulsion. Before expulsion there was no compulsion to count years of life as it was irrelevant in the face of immortality.

To say that Adam was 4.5 billion years in the Garden is no less scientifically argued than to say he lived 500 years in the Garden before expulsion. These are unprovable assertions. The only tenet that any human being can attach to the former is faith. For the latter it is poor statistics much abused in similar fashion to AGW Global Warming.

Evolution is astrological whereas natural selection and adaption are scientific. The former is based on statistical maximum likelihood estimates of interspecies mapping founded on poor data and even poorer inference. The latter is observable in short lived fruitfly among other lab forms.

But nowhere is there proof that man descended from ape or other primate; all is speculation based on wrong statistical inference that has misled many and culminated in formation of a cult.

God created all living things but in Man He created an image of His Spirit. This spiritual creation never evolved, it was created. It has not changed in its nature since the expulsion of Adam until the new and perfect Adam was sent in the person of Jesus Christ.


106 posted on 05/11/2013 6:55:39 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: OldNavyVet

Not all Christians are young earth creationsists, nor do all think Jesus is God the father.

And you leave out the Vedas, which describe a creation taking place billions of years ago, and there are hundreds of millions of Hindus who believe in God.

And there is no scientific truth of evolution. There is speculation, with many lies, and much obfuscation, and sweeping under the rug evidence the evolutionists don’t like.

So maybe you shound rant on a Crevo thread, if there still are any.


115 posted on 05/11/2013 9:47:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: OldNavyVet
The Earth, for instance, came into being about 4.6 billion years ago, long before Jesus appeared ... prompting a question. Why did God wait so long to send humans (and only humans) a savior?

You've got the cart by the wrong end. Why did He bother at all?

Your problem is that you are implicitly applying an intrinsically mechanistic, "engineering" approach to things, and limiting your consideration to (otherwise irrelevant) material considerations, without allowing for the possibility that God had other priorities or considerations, to which we are not privy; nor yet again that there may be legitimate *spiritual* secrets which we have neither the ability to comprehend, nor the right to know.

Just because the Obama administration abuses government power, and lies to cover their sorry ass, does not imply that ALL authority is similarly corrupt.

Cheers! Cheers!

130 posted on 05/12/2013 9:58:46 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: OldNavyVet

According to the Bible, Genesis in fact, our days are not God’s days. Ours are but the blink of an eye.


147 posted on 05/12/2013 12:41:25 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: OldNavyVet

-— Why did God wait so long to send humans (and only humans) a savior? -—

You could perform an experiment, and ask Him.

If He doesn’t answer, it won’t be because He doesn’t exist. It might be because He doesn’t think you need to know.


166 posted on 05/12/2013 5:54:33 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: OldNavyVet

[The content weight of all the Bibles and Korans on Earth is nothing compared to the weight of scientific truth about evolution found in modern technical publications.]

God created all scientific truths.


178 posted on 05/22/2013 9:40:29 PM PDT by Hilda
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