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1 posted on 05/11/2013 12:12:17 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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Ayn Rand was a very intriguing author and philosopher but she was vehemently anti-religion and pro-abortion. And she despised Ronald Reagan for not sharing her views.


2 posted on 05/11/2013 12:21:54 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Ayn Rand was right about the world...up to a point. But CS Lewis found the ultimate truth. Ayn Rand died in denial.

I’ve read most of their books, and Rand makes a good case for refuting Progressivism but her dream world is a harsh place of misery for most. That’s why her books refute progressives so easily. Because they envision the same world of misery, only with different masters and slaves.


3 posted on 05/11/2013 12:22:10 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Is anyone surprised?

For my 2 cents Rand can’t hold a candle to Lewis.


4 posted on 05/11/2013 12:22:50 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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Well Ayn Rand was an atheist which kind of explains her hatred of him.


5 posted on 05/11/2013 12:23:04 PM PDT by plain talk
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Ayn Rand had some useful insights into politics, government, etc.
She definitely made a contribution.

Faith or theology did not seem to be her strong fields, however...


6 posted on 05/11/2013 12:27:54 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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Ayn Rand thought she was god.


7 posted on 05/11/2013 12:28:58 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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*very* interesting...

There was a time when I was quite enamored with Ayn. Indeed her life story is an amazing one....but I also began to note her philosophical disdain _for_ the metaphysical and for the supernatural.

I also learned how men I respect like William F Buckley were not particularly fond of her “philosophy”. Additionally, I was disappointed to learn of her other moral failings...she seemed in them to be a supremely selfish (and not selfish in a morally good sense) person...her breaking of trust with her spouse, for instance, was not an ideal behavior.

Her interviews, available on youtube (some even near the end of her life, like on the Phil Donahue show) were interesting and showed someone who seemed to be supremely interested in the world empirically and politically but not spiritually...which made me sad. Her loneliness was evident.

My conclusion after internalizing all of this leads me to think Ayn Rand was quite right in her conclusion that capitalism was the best economic system, but her dismissal of the spiritual, religious sphere of life was woefully wrong.

My guess is her hatred for C.S. Lewis might have stemmed from the fact that they both seem to have come from the same fountain—an atheistic one—but Lewis was drawn out of that mindset, and she may have been angry about his conversion.


8 posted on 05/11/2013 12:30:24 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Atlas Shrugged reads more like prophecy these days than a novel. It’s all coming true.


9 posted on 05/11/2013 12:30:54 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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Rand wouldn’t like Lewis, or Tolkien, or any non-atheist. Greed-fundamentalist, which still covers a lot of ground.


10 posted on 05/11/2013 12:33:25 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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I am certain Mr. Lewis got it right.
12 posted on 05/11/2013 12:45:55 PM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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CS knew God, even during his atheist bent, his world view tended more toward a God created universe than not. It takes a LOT of effort to deny God, especially when gifted with such intellect... Ayn WOULD not give God His due, she willed not, and her life story is one, more of futility than fertility.
13 posted on 05/11/2013 12:56:18 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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When judging people, you had better be correct. It’s better to just judge actions rather than people. Regardless, I’ve read basically nothing from either of them.


17 posted on 05/11/2013 1:06:17 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Ayn Rand was no fan of C.S. Lewis. She called the famous apologist an “abysmal bastard,” a “monstrosity,” a “cheap, awful, miserable, touchy, social-meta­physical mediocrity,” a “pickpocket of concepts,” and a “God-damn, beaten mystic.” (I suspect Lewis would have particularly relished the last of these.) These insults and more can be found in her marginal notes on a copy of Lewis’ Abolition of Man, as printed in Ayn Rand’s Marginalia: Her critical comments on the writings of over 20 authors, edited by Robert Mayhew.

Ping for later

18 posted on 05/11/2013 1:08:34 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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I’m not much of a C.S. Lewis fan either but Rand would have disliked any real Christian.


20 posted on 05/11/2013 1:14:51 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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Ayn Rand, like Christopher Hitchens and Bertrand Russell, etc., are currently having their theology straightened out.


22 posted on 05/11/2013 1:17:52 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Quit whining about the media not doing their job! GET THE WORD OUT!)
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By the way, I did read JRRT’s authorized biography. Tolkein it seems had many conversations with C.S. Lewis within their mutual writer’s club (the Inklings). It seems JRRT convinced Lewis to become a Christian. I have known at least one Christian who disliked Lewis because of his earlier paganistic writings. I hope not to be judged based on my youthful ignorance.


23 posted on 05/11/2013 1:18:28 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Ayn Rand’s philosophy is one that leads souls to hell, and nations to destruction.


24 posted on 05/11/2013 1:19:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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This point is not missed—that the atheist is led by ideology to hate the Christian, while the view of the Christian is to love the atheist.


26 posted on 05/11/2013 1:21:59 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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Then I am done ever even thinking her name, because Lewis was an intellectual giant and creative genius aside as well as one of the most significant Christians of the 20th century.


27 posted on 05/11/2013 1:37:33 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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I wonder whether Ayn Rand would even have known what capitalism is without the insights of the Protestant Reformation that found Scriptural basis not only in the profit motive but the obligation to pursue that profit in the context of thoroughly incorporated ethics. Like don’t cheat your customers, you win in the short run, but you lose in the long run.


30 posted on 05/11/2013 1:42:01 PM PDT by gusopol3
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