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To: Nero Germanicus
If there was anything to be uncovered, the hundreds of millions of dollars that The Koch Brothers, Donald Trump and Sheldon Adelson alone put into ridding us of Barack Obama should have uncovered a few scintillas of evidence. It didn’t.

This is a variation on the theory that "If there was anything to be found, Hillary would have found it." It is a type of fallacy known as a "non-sequitur."

From what I have been reading, the State governmental officials of Hawaii hold all the keys, and so far attempts to use the legal system to force them to divulge their records have been futile.

This is not the same thing as "PROVING" there is nothing there. It only proves that we can't get at evidence because of the stupidity and recalcitrance of our legal system. I have long argued that an article of the US Constitution should be an automatic trump over any lesser law, including state privacy laws, but our courts have routinely held that the State Privacy laws occupy a superior position than does constitutional law.

Of course they don't say it like that, but this is the decision spoken by their actions.

Regarding Hawaii, I have read numerous articles which accuse Hawaii of having run an American citizenship market for the entire pacific rim, and that this practice was blatant starting in the 50s and continuing all the way to the present. Hawaii's birth certificate laws allow for a great deal of abuse if state officials are so inclined to use them that way.

Of course this little tidbit never seems to register with people.

149 posted on 05/06/2013 7:55:47 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Of course they don’t say it like that, but this is the decision spoken by their actions.

Regarding Hawaii, I have read numerous articles which accuse Hawaii of having run an American citizenship market for the entire pacific rim, and that this practice was blatant starting in the 50s and continuing all the way to the present. Hawaii’s birth certificate laws allow for a great deal of abuse if state officials are so inclined to use them that way.

Of course this little tidbit never seems to register with people. “


It would help the cause and the amount of publicity if plaintiffs in the hundreds of lawsuits that have been filed would present some actual examples of identity theft/document fraud from Hawaii, to establish the pattern.
Just alleging that Hawaii has/had lax standards won’t cut it in court and Congress hasn’t been very interested in this issue. I wonder if there were ever any Congresssional hearings on Hawaii birth certificate standards prior to Obama coming on the scene.


158 posted on 05/06/2013 9:33:55 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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