[nickcarraway]

Let the chips fall where they may.

I'm a conservative, to me actions speak louder than words. So far, birthers have done a lot of talking, but they haven't done any damage to Obama. So for me, they are all hat no cattle. Anyone who does that much talking with 0 results, loses a lot of respect with me. So, until they actually have results they should shut up, or face ridicule.

I don't know what you do for a living, but can you just get by on cheap talk and promises, and never deliver? Because I can't? Maybe you are a therapist or a social worker, and it's all about yammering, and tears, and feelings. But I'm not going to apologize for being a conservative and results oriented. Life is not like the "no winner," "no keeping track of goals," soccer game like the ones you take your kids to.

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

So what are your thoughts on this different looking birth certificate? That is the subject of this thread.

[butterdezillion]

Apparently dead bodies are no excuse for “lack of results”, to you.

I suppose you also have no use for the soldiers slain, because they are obviously “all hat no cattle” since they weren’t successful.

Sick.

[flaglady47]

“I’m a conservative, to me actions speak louder than words. So far, birthers have done a lot of talking, but they haven’t done any damage to Obama. So for me, they are all hat no cattle. Anyone who does that much talking with 0 results, loses a lot of respect with me. So, until they actually have results they should shut up, or face ridicule.”

Ok, Mr. SmartyPants, you try ascertaining the truth of Obama’s birth when the Prez and his minions have spent over a million dollars to hide his past from public view. No school records, even down to kindergarten records, no baptism records, no selective service records, no nothing, because he has covered his tracks and hired lawyers to stymy any attempts to get at the truth. So how, pray tell, does it surprise anyone that results have been nigh on impossible to ascertain when the coverup of the facts of Obama’s very existence have been hidden from public view during his entire regime?

All hat no cattle you say? Geez, well you are one of the sheeple who doesn’t seem to care that we have a Manchurian candidate for a Prez. Cattle, sheeple, whatever. Don’t bother trying to ascertain the truth, just let it go, nothing to see here folks. One day the truth will come out, and then we will accept your apology for turning such a blind eye to the illegitimacy of this Prez who is destroying our way of life every day he is in office.

[Yosemitest]

They have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting this, and all they've found is corrupt Judges. Proof is everywhere.
The Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro), ( the one guilty of TREASON ! ) has NO legitimate Social Security Number.
His father was NOT an immigrant to the United States. Barack Obama Sr. was a "Transient Alien" because he did NOT intend on residing in the United States permanently.
Barack Obama Sr. was a dual citizen of Great Britain and Kenya, and NEVER a United States Citizen.

Read British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. In 1961 In Kenya!

His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so,
at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.
Democrats knew this and tried to eliminate the "Natural Born Citizen" requirement at least 8 times BEFORE Obama won his election in 2008.

Obama is NOT a United States Citizen, and is NOT a LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
He has no VISA allowing him into this country.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS ILLEGAL !
He should be IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY, tried for TREASON, SENTENCED to death, and then have his body deported back to Kenya.

This disgusting Curse on our Nation named Barack Hussein Obama II, aka Barry Soetoro, has a real birth certificate, with his right footprint on it.
All you have to do is look for it.

Here's some critical sources and FACTS.
People can go to www.scribd.com and read their pages 20 thru 32 ,

Introduction, THE UNDOCUMENTED WORKER IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
Obama Uses Social Security Number Issued in Connecticut —
Whose Social Security Number Is Barack Obama Using?

For those of you who don't know, remember this:

The Democrats knew about this BEFORE Obama was elected in 2008!

8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to me

that the DNC knew that Obama was born in Kenya.

Read it for yourself.

What did Congress know about 'natural-born citizen'?
8 tries at eliminating requirement suggests organized strategy in place

1. June 11, 2003, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) 108th congress, H.J.Res. 59

2. Sep 3, 2003, Rep. Conyers, John Jr., (D) H.J.Res. 67

3. Feb 25, 2005, Sen. Nickles, Don (R-OK) Senate Bill 2128, counter the democrats Natural Born Citizen Act - but Defines it wrong

4. Sep 15, 2004, Rep Dana Rohrabacher (D)(R-CA46) H.J.Res 104

5. Jan 4, 2005, Rep Conyers, John Jr., H.J.Res. 2 109th Congress

6. Feb 1, 2005, Rep Rohrabacher, Dana (D) (CA-46) H.J.Res.15

7. April 14, 2005, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) (AR-2) H.J.Res. 42

8. Feb 28, 2008, Senator McCaskill, Claire (D) Attachment to a military bill Senate Bill 2678 Titled Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act.
DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama were cosponsors of this bill.

9. April 10, 2008, Sen McCaskill, Claire (D) (MO) Senate Res.511 passed declaring Senator John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
But it was never in question. It was cosponsored by DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.
Just before the 2008 election Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.

Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were 8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!

Obama's record is hard to find.
Check this link out Sunday, June 27, 2004 Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.

British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. in 1961 In Kenya
shows a birth date of Aug 4, 1961, the exact date of genuine birth certificate with Obama's right foot print on it.
"Several sources show that Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton made a sudden visit to the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the British agency which oversees Public Records Archives from colonial protectorates, to speak with the Chief Executive of the Archives in early August of 2009. African news agency expressed surprise at Clintons arrival since she did not announce her intentions of stopping in Great Britain before embarking on her two week trip to Africa."
This IS the very document that links the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF to his birth certificate.

Let me say again: Think about this.

"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .

Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy.
It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obamas went to the beach to cool off.
While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961(what a sad day for the USA!).
Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."

Here's something to ponder.

I think it more likely that the trip from Kenya actually occurred in August 1961, shortly after BHO-II's birth at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa.
Ann and her newborn son flew from Nairobi to London, via BOAC Flight BA162 and then took the non-stop BOAC flight from London to Vancouver, Canada.
She then traveled the 110 miles or so, across the border, to Seattle in time to start Fall Semester, night-school extension classes at the University of Washington.
The trip would be challenging for a new mother, but she was young, healthy, intelligent, and capable.
BOAC was very accomodating to mothers with young children back in the 1960s. No real problem!

From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was:
From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars:
Single Return
DL 1115.00 2026.80
F 1055.50 1918.80
T 764.00 1396.00
Y 701.00 1282.60



Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER".
Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit, travel immediately and pay the balance of fare in monthly instalments.

If you're wondering about where the money came from, think about this.
Look at all the financial supporters Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. had.
"In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya.
The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students.[22][23][24]
Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,
a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University.
Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends,
thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders.

Yes, it's quite clear that money wasn't a problem for the Marxists Revolutionaries.


Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here.
Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here.

The BOAC World Routes Map is found here.

Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here.

Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here.

Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.

Read INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!
The documents provided in that article are very damaging to Obama, and well worth your time.

Most of these early "supporters" of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF were party to the Communists "spooks".
There's a great volume of history you have to go through to understand this, and it goes back to about 1850.

Read these three articles on one of my earlier post:

Obama, the African Colonial
By L.E. Ikenga

PRAVDA: "THE AMERICAN DESCENT INTO MARXISM IS HAPPENING WITH BREATH TAKING SPEED"

Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)

Now go back and read The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals.

Are you getting the depth of this Fabian Society takeover?

Watch "Fabian Society" 1, then watch "Fabian Society" 2, and then watch "Fabian Society" 3.

You wouldn't believe the information here

It's deep, it's ugly, and most people WILL NOT ... CAN NOT ... accept the truth.

Anybody recall a press release telling the masses about federal intelligence notes sent warning police about this cabal?

[noinfringers2]

I consider myself a politically very conservative person at the very least a dedicated Constitutionalist. I think the ‘birthers’ have had to plow a political field that is weed infested. If one is wanting damage to the Obama establishment the weeds of deception have to be removed. As such the ‘birthers’ have been doing as much and more to remove Obama from office as the political system/government will allow. I believe that in the future the ‘birthers’ will be proven to be/been much more valuable to the preservation of the Founder’s intent for the USA than those who were just spectators to the events and causes.