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Alabama Democratic Party Submits Different Obama Birth Certificate In Ballot Challenge Appeal
McInnish-Goode-v-Chapman-Appeal-ADP-Amicus Brief ^

Posted on 04/25/2013 11:21:53 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

In a unusual rare move, the Alabama Democratic Party has submitted a amicus brief in the McInnish Goode v Chapman Appeal case. The reason being is most likely because the Alabama Supreme Court has Chief Justice Roy Moore presiding over it. He supported Lt. Col. Terry Lakin during his court martial. Another worry for them is another justice named Tom Parker. He once opined in a prior McInnish case:

"McInnish has attached certain documentation to his mandamus petition, which, if presented to the appropriate forum as part of a proper evidentiary presentation, would raise serious questions about the authenticity of both the “short form” and the “long form” birth certificates of President Barack Hussein Obama that have been made public."

This has reasons for the Alabama Democratic Party to be alarmed. In the amicus brief, the Alabama Democratic Party attacked the merits of the appeal, calling the evidence submitted by McInnish “inadmissible and not worthy of belief” and stated:

"A county sheriff from Arizona is not an “official source” of anything in Alabama."

One thing that stands out in the amicus brief filed, specifically on page 33 is something new. It's a Barack Obama long form birth certificate that has a different backing, something not seen before. It's not the normal security paper backing that the Hawaii Dept. Of Health has been using. It is raising a lot of questions that even has Obama supporters baffled. Click on the link and scroll to page 33 of the brief to see the birth certificate.


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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

I should say ‘allegedly’ stamped.


81 posted on 04/25/2013 12:40:18 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: nickcarraway

I am doing more than “making a lot of hot air”.

But at this point nothing gets done unless there is a “lot of hot air”. That’s what a democratic form of government is all about - especially once the rule of law has been thrown out the window.

If the threatened media hadn’t “made a lot of hot air” ridiculing those who knew the truth, maybe the rule of law would have been obeyed.

All I can do is expose the lawlessness and try to convince the corrupt bastards to do something about it. What more do you think I should be doing?

And how the HECK does your badmouthing my efforts help us get the rule of law back?


82 posted on 04/25/2013 12:40:41 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: nickcarraway

That's fair enough. Just don't row against those trying to make it happen. In fact, help where you can! This issue isn't going away. Obama presented falsified documents of his own volition. And that is a fact.


83 posted on 04/25/2013 12:41:26 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

My bad. You’re right. They are from 1980. Sorry.


84 posted on 04/25/2013 12:41:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: nickcarraway

I disagree. This matter should be pursued even after Obama leaves office. If proven, lawsuits can still happen and if the GOP takes the WH criminal investigation of DNC can occur to determine how this fraud was pulled off. Hawaii will be the starting point because they vouched for the fake BC. Obama staff and his wife is on the hook if they knew he was not born where he was suppose to be. Maybe it is better after Obama leaves the WH, that way the blacks are less likely to riot because the GOP used a technicality to undo the election results. The other issue, is we do not want to encourage future fraud. Obama BC issue is worthy of pursuit.


86 posted on 04/25/2013 12:43:59 PM PDT by Fee (9/11 first shaking; 2008 finance collapse second shaking; 2015 ????)
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To: butterdezillion

If you notice in the amicus brief, the Alabama Democratic Party’s attorney Barry Ragsdale references Lt. Mike Zullo as Sheriff Arpaio’s “sidekick”.


88 posted on 04/25/2013 12:49:59 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: F15Eagle
Could be. I've stood next to a postal canceling machine more than once where the letters and cards being fed in instantly turned to excelsior.

No one knows why that happened ~ but after a good 25 years of being near cancelers, they stopped doing it, at least while I was around.

You can still go to a post office near your home and get a form or two to complete which I designed maybe 20 to 30 years ago. They're still fresh, easy to use, informative, and, lo and behold, they should already be saying "2013" on them!

Stuff happens. It's always a battle for uniformity and quality in that business.

The issue at hand is a hand dater or round dater ~ and why it might be screwed up. I can assure you that can happen ~ the USPS is not perfect. Sometimes they manage to buy junk. Back in the 1970s we decided to get into the use of hand stamp systems that used an ink that penetrated the plastic ~ you could use one of those thousands of times. The older hand dater, though, was not as robust as we wanted and they began purchasing metal frame hand daters ~ a bit larger, and they required changing dates each day with the zip of a strip. The older one, if the old date was worn, you had to cut out with your handy dandy butterfly knife (still prohibited on airplanes) ~ and sometimes the wooden handle would be weakened through years of use, and next thing you know you'd have a piece of junk. Post offices on the end of the line ~ Honolulu, Boston, Seattle, Miami, Houston ~ they were always loathe to toss junky equipment. You'd visit them and they had decades old unused forms (No longer current) wrapped up and saved against the day they might run out of the current form and we wouldn't send them a new, fresh run!!!!

I think that's a universal problem ~ Beetle Bailey's Camp Swampy comes to mind.

There are several experts around who can discuss the dating equipment then used in post offices ~ and they can do it for days on end. I've seen everything, but I"m sure they could add to my storehouse of knowledge. But it did look like another clerk off the main track patched up another piece of junk ~ doing what she did normally ~ and Obama told the truth once ~ that he went to that post office ~ but so stoked he didn't even know what day it was.

89 posted on 04/25/2013 12:55:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: nickcarraway

BULLSHIT.


90 posted on 04/25/2013 1:06:56 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: nickcarraway

“I’m a conservative, to me actions speak louder than words. So far, birthers have done a lot of talking, but they haven’t done any damage to Obama. So for me, they are all hat no cattle. Anyone who does that much talking with 0 results, loses a lot of respect with me. So, until they actually have results they should shut up, or face ridicule.”

Ok, Mr. SmartyPants, you try ascertaining the truth of Obama’s birth when the Prez and his minions have spent over a million dollars to hide his past from public view. No school records, even down to kindergarten records, no baptism records, no selective service records, no nothing, because he has covered his tracks and hired lawyers to stymy any attempts to get at the truth. So how, pray tell, does it surprise anyone that results have been nigh on impossible to ascertain when the coverup of the facts of Obama’s very existence have been hidden from public view during his entire regime?

All hat no cattle you say? Geez, well you are one of the sheeple who doesn’t seem to care that we have a Manchurian candidate for a Prez. Cattle, sheeple, whatever. Don’t bother trying to ascertain the truth, just let it go, nothing to see here folks. One day the truth will come out, and then we will accept your apology for turning such a blind eye to the illegitimacy of this Prez who is destroying our way of life every day he is in office.


91 posted on 04/25/2013 1:07:46 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: bluetick

HEAR,HEAR! Say it loud and say it proud.


92 posted on 04/25/2013 1:08:22 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: nickcarraway

“They may be great at law enforcement, but at digging up dirt on people, they are amateurs compared to the Clintons.”

The Clintons are also experts at digging up actual dirt and then using it to cover all the bodies.


93 posted on 04/25/2013 1:08:22 PM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: bluetick

No one was talking about Obama’s birth certificate. The press wasn’t allowed to so most people didn’t have a clue. Most people still don’t have a clue.

They’ll be surprised sooner rather than later, I imagine.


94 posted on 04/25/2013 1:12:34 PM PDT by goldi
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To: flaglady47

I care that he’s president. I just want something effective to oppose him. We don’t have that now.


95 posted on 04/25/2013 1:13:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: deport

“If the Clintons knew how is it that they never used it in the primaries of 08 when Hillary was running for the top job? She wasn’t running for some lower echelon position. Makes absolutely no sense to me for them to keep quite when the were looking for the big enchilada.”

That Catholic priest, Michael Pfleger, is the one who neutered the Clintons’ plans. Do you recall his horrible, hateful, racist routine? I have a black friend who is not radical or political. She could recite Pfleger’s entire monologue word for word, w the *exact* inflections & gestures Pfleger used. She couldn’t repeat it often enough; I’ve never seen her take such pleasure from anything like that before or since.

Once Pfleger painted Hillary as the entitled white woman railing against the upstart black man, she was toast. You can’t win in the Dem party w’out the black vote, & she wasn’t getting it after that. If you look at her campaign trajectory, everything comes down to the Pfleger monologue. Watch it again, if it’s hazy in your mind. Hillary had no chance after it went viral. [Plus, Obama called BJ Clinton a racist for good measure/just in case they didn’t get the point. It all came down to race, & Obama played his favorite card like a pro (race baiting being one of his few areas of expertise).]


96 posted on 04/25/2013 1:56:19 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: nickcarraway
"The fact is he was elected once, and then he was reelected."

Lets continue with debating these "facts". He WAS elected, then REELECTED. This in itself means absolutely nothing from a legal standpoint. The U.S. Constitution, Twentieth Amendment, Section Three is an instruction to Congress naming an interim President in the event of two circumstances. 1. If the President Elect shall have died before taking the oath of office, or 2. If the President Elect "shall have failed to qualify".

There is no such person as a President Elect until Congress has ratified the electoral college results and named someone as President Elect. Before this happens, someone simply has more electoral college votes than someone else.

Since it takes the act of ratifying the electoral college votes by Congress in order for a President Elect to be named, the portion of Section Three dealing with a "President Elects" failure to qualify has nothing to do with the election results. The fact is that the only thing left in the Constitution having to do with "qualifications" are the eligibility requirements from Article Two.

Congress is instructed to name an interim President if the President Elect fails to qualify. This means that they, Congress, must be made aware of whether or not they have to act. If the President Elect cannot prove to Congress that he meets the eligibility requirements of Article Two, he/she can NEVER be a legal President. He/She thus becomes a Usurper. This is all fact.

97 posted on 04/25/2013 1:58:45 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: nickcarraway
They have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting this, and all they've found is corrupt Judges. Proof is everywhere.
The Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro), ( the one guilty of TREASON ! ) has NO legitimate Social Security Number.
His father was NOT an immigrant to the United States. Barack Obama Sr. was a "Transient Alien" because he did NOT intend on residing in the United States permanently.
Barack Obama Sr. was a dual citizen of Great Britain and Kenya, and NEVER a United States Citizen.His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so,
at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.
Democrats knew this and tried to eliminate the "Natural Born Citizen" requirement at least 8 times BEFORE Obama won his election in 2008.

Obama is NOT a United States Citizen, and is NOT a LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
He has no VISA allowing him into this country.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS ILLEGAL !
He should be IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY, tried for TREASON, SENTENCED to death, and then have his body deported back to Kenya.

This disgusting Curse on our Nation named Barack Hussein Obama II, aka Barry Soetoro, has a real birth certificate, with his right footprint on it.
All you have to do is look for it.

Here's some critical sources and FACTS.
People can go to www.scribd.com and read their pages 20 thru 32 ,
For those of you who don't know, remember this:
8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to meRead it for yourself.
1. June 11, 2003, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) 108th congress, H.J.Res. 59

2. Sep 3, 2003, Rep. Conyers, John Jr., (D) H.J.Res. 67

3. Feb 25, 2005, Sen. Nickles, Don (R-OK) Senate Bill 2128, counter the democrats Natural Born Citizen Act - but Defines it wrong

4. Sep 15, 2004, Rep Dana Rohrabacher (D)(R-CA46) H.J.Res 104

5. Jan 4, 2005, Rep Conyers, John Jr., H.J.Res. 2 109th Congress

6. Feb 1, 2005, Rep Rohrabacher, Dana (D) (CA-46) H.J.Res.15

7. April 14, 2005, Rep. Snyder, Vic (D) (AR-2) H.J.Res. 42

8. Feb 28, 2008, Senator McCaskill, Claire (D) Attachment to a military bill Senate Bill 2678 Titled Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act.
DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama were cosponsors of this bill.

9. April 10, 2008, Sen McCaskill, Claire (D) (MO) Senate Res.511 passed declaring Senator John McCain a Natural Born Citizen.
But it was never in question. It was cosponsored by DNC Presidential Candidate Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.
Just before the 2008 election Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.

Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were 8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!

Obama's record is hard to find.
Check this link out Sunday, June 27, 2004 Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.

British National Archives Show Son Born To Obama Sr. in 1961 In Kenya
shows a birth date of Aug 4, 1961, the exact date of genuine birth certificate with Obama's right foot print on it.
"Several sources show that Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton made a sudden visit to the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the British agency which oversees Public Records Archives from colonial protectorates, to speak with the Chief Executive of the Archives in early August of 2009. African news agency expressed surprise at Clintons arrival since she did not announce her intentions of stopping in Great Britain before embarking on her two week trip to Africa."
This IS the very document that links the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF to his birth certificate.

Let me say again: Think about this.
Here's something to ponder. Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.

Read INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!
The documents provided in that article are very damaging to Obama, and well worth your time.

Most of these early "supporters" of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF were party to the Communists "spooks".
There's a great volume of history you have to go through to understand this, and it goes back to about 1850.

Read these three articles on one of my earlier post:


Now go back and read The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals.

Are you getting the depth of this Fabian Society takeover?

You wouldn't believe the information here

It's deep, it's ugly, and most people WILL NOT ... CAN NOT ... accept the truth.

Anybody recall a press release telling the masses about federal intelligence notes sent warning police about this cabal?





98 posted on 04/25/2013 2:03:42 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: nickcarraway
But I am not the ruled of the universe.

A very telling "typo". After reading your posts on this thread, I wouldn't say that with a straight face if I were you.

You certainly sound like one of the ruled to me.

You're saying exactly what you're supposed to and no doubt your rulers appreciate it.

99 posted on 04/25/2013 2:15:35 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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