Ah well, I suppose I just happen to have a few minutes day to indulge you a response, so here goes:
The specific wording of your explanation for Congress's choice to fiddle-while-Rome-burns, is wrong of course. If any Republican congressman is aware of an opportunity to publicly disgrace Barack Obama, there could be many motives for him to resist involvement, but there are very few politicians I think who would shrink back merely for fear of disavowing the word of the likes of Fmr. Gov. Linda Lingle and Dr. Chiyome Fukino. On the contrary, A typical Republican is quite content to disavow his fellows especially when he thinks doing so could win him increased recognition and favor among his constituents.
But I'm sure you didn't mean to have those particular words subjected to scrutiny, you merely meant them to provide a rather sideways segue into your larger point. So on that point, yes, I suppose it's possible that congressmen resist this issue not because they hate to disavow Lingle et al, but because they, like you, have only selectively and superficially reviewed the evidence.
I certainly can't deny that Lingle's words when taken by themselves make a decent case to the superficial observer that there's nothing to see here. I do not know what motivated the governor to issue that statement, but in the context of a very long list of questionable actions and statements flowing from officials in Hawaii, I find it woefully inadequate to seal our confidence that Hawaii and Team Obama have been fully direct and honest with respect to the birth certificate.
For starters, consider that Fukino (whom you seem to regard as an implicit source of reassurance about the birth certificate) used tortured and evasive language in the two key statements she made while still the Director. Then there is the matter of changing the name of the short form, the admission of Okubo, when pressed, that there was no way for her to say what the purported short form doc represented. There's the quiet name change of the short-form document and the quiet retraction of the recommendation that Long-form birth certs be used for applications to the Homelands program as well as the instructions for obtaining those forms. Let's not forget the fact that Hawaii kept insisting its hands were tied by the letter of the law regarding privacy protections, and yet they had no lawful justification for issuing oddly vague public statements about the birthplace and disposition of records for Obama. Oh and let's not forget the fact that Hawaii turned to the state legislature and their proposed vexatious requestor bill for relief while never once seeking relief by proposing to skeptics or the press that Obama himself could simply request that a certified copy of the long-form be mailed out directly from HDOH to some key doubting parties.
We have the curious matter of Virginia Sunahara, for whom at one time there were no records responsive to be found at HDOH, but then later was discovered to have a record that spurred Hawaii to fight the deceased infant's brother in court to prevent him from obtaining a long-form copy of her birth certificate, since doing so, HDOH laughably claimed, might bring harm to the fragile document. Let's see, there's the statement by Abercrombie, that there was something (something he would imply is less than thoroughly convincing) "actually written down in the state archives." Around the same time, as Butterdezillion reminds us, there was the curious appointment of Palafox and subsequent resignation by the same despite the fact that he had "no idea why" he resigned. Also chronologically coinciding was the inexplicably career jeopardizing detailed disclosure and immediate retraction by Mike Evans, radio personality and personal friend to Abercrombie. I'm sure you saw as completely innocent, the wrangling eight-week red-tape delay of HDOH to authorize an official verification be sent to the Secretary of State in Arizona, before ultimately capitulating with a weirdly worded verification, and equally innocent, I suppose was the refusal to confirm that content was "identical" in the verification sent to the Kansas Secretary of State.
Perhaps we would do well also to remember that at the lack of any plausible innocent reason, Team Obama took the extraordinary step of sending a law firm courier (with whom correspondence could be protected by attorney-client privilege) to carry the documents by hand from Hawaii to D.C., once they had finally made the decision, nearly 4 years into the controversy, to produce the long form. Lets see, there are all the many motions to stay discovery proffered by lawyers on behalf of Obama, not to mention utter refusal of those same counselors to provide as exhibit to the courts at any time through the lengthy legal battles a copy of even just the short form, let along the long form--though, to be fair, once a copy was unofficially printed on the back side of a page of official correspondence related to such a case in Georgia (nothing sneaky about presenting "evidence" that is officially off the record, is there?). Oh and lets not forget the litany of odd and foggy phrases concocted to for legal briefs crafted in defense of Obama to describe what we're meant to understand as being Obama's birth certificate.
I haven't even mentioned the document itself. In short, to this day no one has proposed a plausible sequence of events that would involve simply innocently scanning and uploading a pdf of Obama's birth certificate that could have resulted in the digital characteristics we observe in the pdf. In particular, there is no normal innocent means by which a document would have visible content hidden by a clipping mask, would have many high contrast elements that bear no trace of red-blue distortion, would have small white specks on one layer that when pealed back reveal the green thatch pattern behind them (x-ray scanning?), or would have multiple single bit-depth layers without corresponding layers of increased color bit depth. Zullo now contends he has a court certified expert who has sworn his conclusion that the document is not what Team Obama has implied that it is. By the way, let's do keep in mind that only one select media correspondent was allowed to touch the raised seal, and that, strictly behind closed doors.
Now I know the Selective Service System registration card isn't the same thing as a Birth certificate, so maybe it's silly of me to mention the fact that Obama's card has a two digit date stamp against all reasonable expectation, but one that is a stunningly perfect fit for what a person might produce if he had to come up with a 1980 date stamp in 2008. Yeah, I guess your right; even if there is something suspicious about the SSS form, it's surely for reasons unrelated what whatever circumstances make the birth certificate seemingly suspicious. Also, for the same reason, I'll ignore the fact that the SSS changed their rules regarding what they have to produce to aid which law enforcement entities only after MCSO began its investigation. And again since these things are surely too distant to be related, let's also think nothing at all about the fact that no one has yet proposed a decent explanation for why Obama is carrying a Conneticut-issued SSN, nor should we bother pondering why microfilm was supplied to MCSO documenting international arrivals for all of the months surrounding Obama's birth but the one week in which he was born. And, come on, it's crazily off topic to mention the photograph released through one of Obama's official web sites that curiously demonstrates how during a time in Obama's youth, his mother's left arm terminated into an oversized hand and wrist bearing pigmentation consistent with a person of African descent.
As I suppose you well know, this is a very brief summary of many of, but far from all of, the ocean of issues which persuade me to think that Obama's background narrative and supposedly supporting identity documents should be subjected to intense further investigation, including subpoenas forcing document access and law enforcement conducted interviews.
. . . But then again, as you've already pointed out most helpfully, there is that comment by Former Governor Linda Lingle, well-known to be a GOP teammate, that really just settles the whole question and should be seen as fully sufficient to set our minds at ease. I mean come on, what real reason is there to doubt the what the Madame Governor said?
Noble Emperor Nero, please accept my apology for supposing that people should take the forgery evidence seriously.
Excellent smack-down.
Anybody who is not suspicious is either brain-dead or an Obot at this point (but I repeat myself. lol)
We also mustn’t forget that Larry Sellin overheard a R Presidential primary candidate explain that nobody will touch the eligibility issue because they know it is way deeper than anybody wants to delve. IOW, they KNOW THERE IS TREACHERY, and they are afraid of stirring the waters.
I’m hoping that the terror attacks by terrorists that Obama’s regime had been warned of for 5 years, complete with specific ties to specific terror groups, and yet ignored..... along with the possibility that North Korea has a super EMP from Russia that is already in orbit just waiting to shoot through a hole in our south-facing radar..... will let these people know that if the treachery is not confronted, America faces an existential threat from OUR OWN WHITE HOUSE AND ITS THUGS.
Way past time for the stupid excuse of “embarrassment”, and the “don’t stir up the water” excuse no longer flies either. If we don’t stir up the nest we will be left vulnerable to all the attacks our enemies want to make on us.
IOW, it’s crunch time. Either we rise up and survive, or we cower in the corner and die. Members of Congress and the “conservative” media, it’s time. Now or never.
“In short, to this day no one has proposed a plausible sequence of events that would involve simply innocently scanning and uploading a pdf of Obama’s birth certificate that could have resulted in the digital characteristics we observe in the pdf.”
Have you heard of mixed raster content compression?
“one that is a stunningly perfect fit for what a person might produce if he had to come up with a 1980 date stamp in 2008.”
But they were able to find an obsolete, round, Honolulu Makiki Station Post Office handstamp? And why would they need a 1980 stamp, couldn’t they use a 1970 stamp or 1960 or 1985 or 1995 and cut off the first two digits?
Wow, thanks for taking the time to reply in such depth, I appreciate all the effort.
Can you name ANY Tea Party endorsed Republican in either House of Congress who has called for congressional hearings on either the constitutional definition of the term “natural born citizen” or for hearings on the bona fides of Barry Soetoro?
By way of contrast, the House of Representatives has been more than willing to issue myriad congressional subpoenas for every file in their “Fast & Furious” investigation and even hold for the first time in American history, the Attorney General in Contempt of Congress for his recalcitrance (and he’s black).t
Can you name any well known conservative constitutionalist attorney (such as any of the former Republican Solicitor Generals) who has submitted an amicus brief in support of any Obama eligibility challenge?
Both former Governor Lingle and former Director of Health Fukino were sued multiple times to force the release of birth records related to Obama’s eligibility ( as has been current Health Director Fuddy)). Lingle and Fukino prevailed in all the lawsuits against them.
There has been ample opportunity to raise and examine all the issues you have discussed. There have been 206 Obama eligibility civil actions filed in courts in practically every state in the nation. To date, 201 of those civil actions have been adjudicated. There have also been 90 state and federal appellate level rulings and 25 denials of certiorari or applications for stays, injunctions or extraordinary writs such as mandamus/prohibition at the Supreme Court of the United States. Every one of the Justices in the 5-4 conservative majority except Justice Alito has had the opportunity to grant a stay or an injunction but none have.
Here are quotes from two conservative judges who have adjudicated cases involving these eligibility issues, first a Reagan judge and second a Bush #43 judge:
“Ever persistent, plaintiff (Orly Taitz) has once again come before this court in an effort to uncover “the biggest cover up in the history of this nation.”
She believes that the President is using a “fraudulently obtained” social security number and that the Social Security Administration—among other agencies—is involved in a scheme to cover up social security fraud, IRS fraud, elections fraud—and possibly treason” committed by the President.
As her numerous filings with the court demonstrate, plaintiff will stop at nothing to get to the bottom of this alleged conspiracy. Unfortunately for plaintiff, today is not her lucky day.”—Chief US District Court Judge for the District of Columbia, Royce C. Lamberth. Taitz v. Astrue, 8/30/11
http://www.legaltimes.typepad.com/files/Lamberth-opinion-4.pdf
“A spurious claim questioning the president’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”—Rhodes v MacDonald, US District Court Judge Clay D. Land, US District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, September 16, 2009.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19809978/RHODES-v-MacDONALD-13-ORDER-denying-3-Motion-for-TRO-granting-8-Motion-to-Dismiss-Ordered-by-Judge-Clay-D-Land-on-09162009-CGC-Entered-0
When you total the multi-judge appeals court panels, the state elections boards with citizen members hearing ballot eligibility challenges (there were challenges heard in 22 states in 2012) including the 206 original jurisdiction judges, pretty darn close to a thousand Triers of Fact have had opportunities to examine allegations and evidence concerning birth records, father’s place of birth, social security numbers, Selective Service registration, kerning, photoshop, layers, smiley faces, Virginia Sunahara’s birth certificate and every other allegation.
But since 2008: zilch.