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The gold price crash is further evidence of market rigging
The Telegraph ^ | 4/16/2013 | Thomas Pascoe

Posted on 04/17/2013 5:08:32 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

The facts in the public domain do not justify the sharp fall in the gold price over the past two trading days. At the time of writing, the price per 1oz is $1363, down over $200 since Friday's open. The scale of the sell-off was the worst in 30 years, with the volatility index standing at the highest level in its history. John Kemp at Reuters has calculated that based on a normal distribution, you would expect to see movements like Monday's only once in every 500 million trading days, or two million years. The news which would justify such a price swing is curiously absent – in fact, my view is that the market ought to be bullish for gold. Something doesn't add up.

In any market, price is determined by the confluence of demand and supply. In many respects supply of gold is relatively fixed. We know the extent of discovered gold reserves and the rate of production. While Cyprus is being forced to dump "excess" gold in order to meet the ever escalating bank bail-out bill, its whole holdings are worth only $750m, hardly enough to move one of the worlds deepest and most liquid markets to this degree.

In fact, most of the selling pressure has come from ETFs dumping holdings. A record $9.2bn of net outflows from gold ETFs in the first three months of 2013 are indicative of loss of faith on the part of investors, as well as of a structural change in a market which has been opened up to electronic trading by the invention of these instruments.

But why would investors wish to sell their gold holdings? As an alternative store of value, it is easiest to think of demand for gold in terms of demand and supply

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; History
KEYWORDS: gold; goldminicrash; pumpanddump
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1 posted on 04/17/2013 5:08:32 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Our markets are just as doped as Lance Armstrong’s Tour de France victories. If your money’s still invested, you are heading for disaster.


2 posted on 04/17/2013 5:11:43 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: bruinbirdman

When supply is expected to increase you should not be surprised when the value drops .

Cypriot finance minister sees gold sale within months
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/17/cyprus-gold-sale-idUSL5N0D41K620130417


3 posted on 04/17/2013 5:11:53 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: bruinbirdman

Your first question in all this should be where is SOROS?


4 posted on 04/17/2013 5:13:38 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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5 posted on 04/17/2013 5:15:17 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (The Old White Flag Republicans can go straight to He// and take their pal Obama with them!)
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To: bruinbirdman

I call bull on this article and the calculations of any normal distribution. Where is this data.


6 posted on 04/17/2013 5:16:18 PM PDT by bt-99 ("Get off my Lawn")
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To: bruinbirdman

Odd how the price going UP isn’t market manipulation, but price going down is.

Every market is “manipulated” by the people who are willing to buy or sell an item. Nobody is forced at gunpoint to sell an ounce of gold, or to buy one, at any particular price.

For some reason, people who on Thursday wouldn’t part with an ounce of gold at $1600 are now quite willing to sell it for under $1400.

Gold has little intrinsic value, so the major part of that market is really just the expectations people have. It is a big game, a gamble on whether you can convince others that an ounce of gold has more value than what you paid for it.

But in the end, it’s a soft metal for which actual uses would only need a small fraction of the total available. The value now is mostly perception.

And when something’s value is based on feeling, it can drop like a rock, rise like a rocket.

Of course, the stock market is that way sometimes as well.


7 posted on 04/17/2013 5:16:21 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mastador1
Your first question in all this should be where is SOROS?

George would never manipulate a market!

</sarcasm>

8 posted on 04/17/2013 5:16:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: Lera
When supply is expected to increase you should not be surprised when the value drops .

LOL.

9 posted on 04/17/2013 5:25:15 PM PDT by Stentor ("the 3 stooges are in charge of monetary policy and sammy davis is president, WTF?" ZH)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Only if he could damage the economy of a democracy. There is a reason Hungary booted this piece of cr*p. Those who turn their own people over to the Nazis don't deserve to live. No
10 posted on 04/17/2013 5:27:29 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
For some reason, people who on Thursday wouldn’t part with an ounce of gold at $1600 are now quite willing to sell it for under $1400.

The fact that you think this is about "people" is quaint and cute.

11 posted on 04/17/2013 5:27:57 PM PDT by Stentor ("the 3 stooges are in charge of monetary policy and sammy davis is president, WTF?" ZH)
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To: bruinbirdman; All
Thank you for posting bruinbirdman.

I respectfully disagree with Thomas Pascoe's article about gold. A blunt article which indicates that the price of gold can bubble just like anything else is at the following link.

The day gold died

And more convincingly, there is a gold price history chart on the page at the following link.

Gold and Silver Prices - 100 Year Historical Chart

I notice at least 2 previous bursted gold price balloons in the 1900s.

I conclude that the price of gold has been artificially high as opposed to market manipulation to make price fall.

But I'm no expert. Critiques welcome.

12 posted on 04/17/2013 5:29:20 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: CharlesWayneCT

LOL!!


13 posted on 04/17/2013 5:32:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Life is a bitch. If it was easy, we would call it a slut)
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To: Amendment10

“The facts in the public domain do not justify the sharp fall in the gold price over the past two trading days. At the time of writing, the price per 1oz is $1363, down over $200 since Friday’s open”

Public domain also doesn’t justify $4.00 gallon gas.


14 posted on 04/17/2013 5:35:13 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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Lots of people whining about the price fall. But no one smiling at time to buy in?


15 posted on 04/17/2013 5:40:15 PM PDT by llevrok (2013: The USA is in a Cold Civil War.)
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To: llevrok

Fed policy has rendered most markets immune to stress. Gold’s sudden sell-off was a reality check. A tragic panic for duped investors unsuited for this extremely risky investment. When our Wizard of Oz (Bernake) runs out of tricks, bigger BUBBLES will pop.

Meanwhile, watch for trial lawyers chasing Gold Market Victims. No $hit.


16 posted on 04/17/2013 6:00:04 PM PDT by Broker (Obama, the devils fart.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; All
“The facts in the public domain do not justify the sharp fall in the gold price over the past two trading days. At the time of writing, the price per 1oz is $1363, down over $200 since Friday’s open”

I cannot say that there was no price manipulation in the fall in gold prices over the last week. But the gold prices history chart that I previously posted a link to shows that same kind of sharp fall happened in 1980/81.

17 posted on 04/17/2013 6:12:24 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The price of gold is manipulated by central bankers....Has been for along time...They own the majority of it so they can!!...

even the talking heads know that...
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/gold-rout-blame-central-bank-manipulation-says-gata-154049120.html


18 posted on 04/17/2013 6:27:22 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: bruinbirdman
As someone who is a gold-bug at heart I have been telling folks to stay away from gold and precious metals for several years. The markets are rigged to protect the big banks and sovereign debt and why anyone but folks peddling the stuff cannot see this is beyond me..if the SHTF gold will be dominated in what its worth to store in a third world economy..conservatives need to stay away from the stuff and use their resources for things that can really do them some good in the future many of us see coming..
19 posted on 04/17/2013 6:41:13 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: bruinbirdman
The bottom line is that the dollar will become worthless because of massive printing and the loss of world reserve currency status. There will be implementation of a wealth tax where they tax your house or farm until you can no longer afford to live there and you will have to sell in order to pay the tax. Gold is a store of wealth and is recognized world wide and will always have some worth . The dollar won't except to maybe start a fire or wipe my butt.
20 posted on 04/17/2013 7:04:29 PM PDT by pterional
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