Posted on 04/11/2013 9:47:28 PM PDT by OneWingedShark
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Griffin: I think you’re trying to tell us something… to this country.
Bezmenov: Oh yes. I am trying to tell you that it has to be stopped, unless you want to end up in [a] gulag system, and enjoy all the advantages of socialist equality, working for free, catching fleas on your body, sleeping on planks of plywood, in Alaska this time, I guess. That’s where Americans will belong unless they will wake up, of course, and force their government to stop aiding Soviet fascism.
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Thoughts?
Well, maybe that’s what it’s going to take in order for people to learn. Or maybe they won’t ever learn.
Not sure I really care that much anymore, because there really does not seem to be anything to be done about it.
Those who love freedom have very few allies, and we are surrounded as far as the eye can see by those who want to be slaves.
Thought you might find this interesting, or if you’ve seen it find the refreshing of your memory instructive.
Excellent illustration of Demoralization.
Yep.
Doesn’t change the reality of the situation though.
>>>Not sure I really care that much anymore, because there really does not seem to be anything to be done about it.
Excellent illustration of Demoralization.<<<
More like Normalization, thus Bezmenov had put another sense into it. Let’s call it Rationalization.
In 1987 I had the pleasure of being part of a group of people who escorted Yuri around northern Colorado visiting various conservative groups.
Yuri loved America.
Maybe you're right, what I was thinking though was the portion where he talks about making it impossible for them to people to be able to process truth/reality -- the truth is:
There are an estimated 270 million total guns in the US's civilian population, an average of 89 firearms for every 100 residents -- that average is rather a useless metric because many gun owners own multiple guns -- Ted Nugent would skew the average of his city all by himself.So, given such hugely lopsided odds it certainly is possible to do something about it.So we have to jump off a little bit, let's assume there's 10% of the population armed (that's ~30 Million), now let's say that only half of that will have any will to resist (~15 million) -- there are 675,734 Law Enforcement officers [source, add in the full force of the US Armed forces 1,429,995 [wikipedia] and we have 15,000,000 : 2,105,729 or approximately 15:2 odds.
Now that makes some admittedly bad assumptions -- (1) that more population wouldn't get involved when personal losses hit, (2) that all Law Enforcement Officers would comply, and (3) that all the Armed Forces would comply. If we assume a 50/50 split that becomes a 16:1 odds against the government.
That sounds like it was interesting.
Yuri loved America.
I notice that many immigrants do -- I know a man from my church, from Argentina, who can tell you exactly the parallels between the US now and the fall of Argentina; you can tell he loves the American ideal and doesn't want the same to befall this country.
Nope, it doesn't -- But I know who can, and He has a history of helping His people.
Yes, it was interesting. Yuri was a character and he taught us all a lot.
After a few vodkas, he’d tear up and curse the communists and our media. He detested people like Dan Rather.
What was that ?...... drawing the quarter....wait....drawn a quarter.....no.....perhaps....he said....drawn and quartered......wait.....something.....else......hear the monument ?.....no.....wait......near the monument......perhaps....maybe.....near my monument.
Boy that is strange and makes no sense at all.
I know a man from my church, from Argentina, who can tell you exactly the parallels between the US now and the fall of Argentina; you can tell he loves the American ideal and doesn’t want the same to befall this country.
It’s sad to see people like that come here and have to go through it all over again.
True, true... but that sounds a bit messy... maybe a good couple of rounds of rope-dances would be more appropriate.
We get em after the Russians, Chinese and Al Qeada. Wont be much dance left in em.
Very true, but some people have Tsutomu Yamaguchi-luck.
That’s quite a story and he was quite a man.
“Normalization
Indefinite length; “getting used to the ‘new Normal’”.”
I saw a commercial a few weeks ago. The theme was “Get Normal”. I could not figure out the point of it.
Has anyone else seen it?
>>>So, given such hugely lopsided odds it certainly is possible to do something about it.
Would it be bloody? Yes.
Would it be uncomfortable? Yes.
Would it be tragic? Yes.
Would it be useless? Only if we are not fighting on God’s side, but why would God side with those lawless people who want to murder and destroy the freedom of the people — is not God on the side of the oppressed??<<<
I’m not into Bezmenov theory to start with. IMHO, his idea was to sell a story high. As a talented agitprop specialist he reached deep into souls of audience.
Russians has similar conspiracy theory on US project to subvert them known as “Dulles plan”. If they are right it worked on them earlier and better than their own plan for US.
I don’t think there were actual programs to practically takeover each over in either USSR and US. Both KGB and CIA could prop some decadent forces but it couldn’t make that much.
Bezmenov actually mentions features of decomposing societies. Foreign involvement may boost it or not but it is all still features of natural demoralization.
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