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To: AuH2ORepublican; Impy
"True conservative" Martinez was a high profile GOP establishment candidate and had all kinds of red flags in his background, such as his record of giving illegals loans when he was HUD secretary, and being a long time loyal liberal Democrat who switched to the GOP once they took over Florida politics (and NOT because he had a falling out over liberal policies). His fan club ignored it and looked the other way, going into hysteria whenever a large number of conservatives questioned the campaign image of him as a heroic principled conservative star.

Rubio was a difference case, to this day I'm not sure how good or how bad he was in his past offices. It was hard to research since he was a local and state official with a thin paper trail. That was the biggest problem, he was difficult to research and his fanboys had zero interest in doing so. The mindset with many tea party people (not just Floridians) is to IMMEDIATELY sign up to endorse whatever candidate shows up on the scene out of nowhere and screams the loudest that he or she is our savior. This has come back to bite us in the butt numerous times. The one legit criticism of Rubio was that he did absolutely nothing with the six bills to crack down on illegal immigration when was Florida GOP Speaker, but Rubio had a fair answer to that, in that none of the other GOP leaders in the FL House or Senate took action on them either.

>> But you won't be fooled, because you know that all Cuban-American Republicans are secretly pro-amnesty. <<

I don't think anyone would make a ludicrous claim that every single Cuban-American Republican is secretly pro-amnesty. (Ted Cruz, for example, is Cuban-American and there's never been any question his record is solid, and he's been one of the few "tea party" candidates who actually DID live up to the hype)

However, I DO think it's safe to say that all of the "rising conservative stars" from Florida who are being pushed hard in the primary by the pro-amnesty Bush brothers (George W. & Jeb) are not the "Anti-amnesty" candidates they claim to be. Martinez, Rubio, and if Jebby finds a third "anti-amnesty" rising star from Florida in 2016, I'd bet money they guy isn't one. Makes as much sense as believing Obama has recruited an "anti-Obamacare" candidate from Illinois simple because the candidate says he's "100% against Obamacare". Tsk tsk, AuH2ORepublican. Freepers SHOULD know better.

17 posted on 04/10/2013 4:44:40 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

I don’t think Rubio was that Tea Party. The Tea Party had a hard time getting him to a Tea Party to vet him and he has refused to join the Tea Party caucus in the Senate. The problem with the Tea Party is that since the vast majority do not endorse, either the media or the candidate declares who the Tea Party candidate is. If the Tea Parties were smart, they would decide who the most Tea Party candidate is, and denounce the media with an official letter for making such claims, maybe a lawsuit might work and put a huge banner on their website denouncing candidate X as the Tea Party candidate.

“none of the other GOP leaders in the FL House or Senate took action on them either.”

Seriously thats no answer is it right? If everyone else jumps off a bridge will you too mentality. No he was the House Speaker, he gave it out to the committees and if I had to bet, they were probably majority Democrat. That was the lamest excuse I ever heard. He did nothing on the six Bills because he was for AMNESTY


21 posted on 04/11/2013 1:54:26 AM PDT by jdirt
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