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DHS confirms it's spying on 'anti-government' Americans
examiner.com ^ | MARCH 30, 2013 | RYAN KELLER

Posted on 04/03/2013 4:23:03 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

In an effort to clear up “misconceptions” that the Fusion Centers of the Department of Homeland Security spy on Americans, Arkansas State Fusion Center Director Richard Davis denied that they do this, instead saying that they’re only spying on “anti-government” Americans

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As has been reported, the DHS has released documents listing Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, people who support gun rights, who oppose the Federal Reserve, oppose illegal immigration and oppose abortion as “domestic extremists” and terrorists.

Over the last year, the DHS has purchased nearly 2 billion rounds of mostly hollow point ammunition, more than 2,700 MRAP vehicles designed to withstand mine blasts, 7,000 fully automatic assault rifles and $2 million worth of paper targets depicting average Americans with the label “No More Hesitation.” These purchases have led many to believe that the agency is getting ready to fight Americans, as the DHS only operates domestically. If this is true, then the fact that they’re spying on people with anti-government views means they’re preparing to fight those people.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: antiamericans; bho44; bhodhs; bigbrother; bigsis; counterterrorism; dhs; dhsoutofcontrol; dhsspying; dhssurveillance; domesticextremists; domesticterrorism; donutwatch; fusioncenter; mrap; nomorehesitation
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To: BarnacleCenturion

That includes me. It also includes the Constitution. And alows me to stand shoulder to shulder with men much greater than I such as Patrick Henry. I am humbly honored to be included on their list.


61 posted on 04/03/2013 6:37:36 AM PDT by sport
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To: rarestia

When the government is through, the herd will be considerably thinner.


62 posted on 04/03/2013 6:39:46 AM PDT by sport
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To: struggle

The vast majority of “old Hams” are Patriots, huge number of vets and many worked in Defence Industries.

Very few Lefties.

You will see that on more than 80 meters.


63 posted on 04/03/2013 6:42:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Boogieman

Which of course raises the question of what military purchases, if any, go toward domestic use by law enforcement, DHS or others, like OBama’s Praetorians.

Not so clearcut.


64 posted on 04/03/2013 6:45:35 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Texas Fossil

That is probably very true. But i think Zero has selected some guy to be wormed into these guys organizations too, to tie them up with FEMA.


65 posted on 04/03/2013 6:48:09 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: BarnacleCenturion

That article confirms what I have come to believe:

It is not now so much Democrat vs. Republican, or Conservative vs. Liberal, it is Government Insiders vs. ordinary citizens.

Government of the people, by the people and for the people is no more.

I guess I need to get a “Shoot me, Big Sis” t-shirt.


66 posted on 04/03/2013 6:57:21 AM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: rarestia
The old hippies are getting restless for their ounce of gold, and reign of utopian power.
They have become what they hated back in the sixties. Big Brother.
67 posted on 04/03/2013 7:04:56 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: TArcher
...psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

It's called cognitive dissonance.

FMCDH(BITS)

68 posted on 04/03/2013 7:25:06 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Remember, there is NO HONEST way our ruling elite can amass the wealth they do on the salary we pay them. They will fight to OUR death to keep their gravy train running. Why else would they spend millions to get a job that only pays a few hundred thousand?

Individuals have never been able to inflict the degree of carnage on civilization like powerful governments.

The Founders knew this and gave us every tool possible to keep the government in check. They did not want “NO Government” they wanted “LIMITED” government.

You can look at just about any type of organization throughout recorded history and see when it becomes too powerful it will ALWAYS become evil.

Governments, religion, big business, big labor... the bigger they become the more corrupt and abusive they become. They will never relinquish ANY power without a fight.

The US Federal government (and many State Governments) crossed the line years ago and just like a giant ball of snow rolling down the hill they are gathering size, inertia, speed, and most importantly, killing power. We are at the bottom of the hill and the ruling elites at the top are keeping a keen eye on us to make sure we do nothing to that weapon of government to decrease its size, speed and potential impact.

We continue to refuse to take our kids/grand kids out of government schools so the indoctrination will continue until the point is reached (already there IMO) when we can no longer peacefully, via elections, get government back in the constitutional box. Our laziness will be our downfall.


69 posted on 04/03/2013 7:33:30 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: TArcher
The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students...

In the Old Testament story of Moses leading the enslaved nation of Israel out of Egypt, it is interesting that a generation had to die. Those that knew only slavery, and constantly wanted to go back to that system, had to die before a intellectually free people could go into the promised land.

70 posted on 04/03/2013 7:49:40 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I’m on their list and that makes me proud!


71 posted on 04/03/2013 8:59:34 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: rarestia

“I believe some other FReepers have a better idea on when it all starts... after the 2014 mid-terms.

The Communists would be overplaying their hand right now if they fired up the masses over this summer.”

I see some validity in your point, however, I could envision this summer as perfectly ripe for strife. The propagandists would just blame the “evil republicans’ and tea party’s” extreme sequestor budget cuts!

No matter that they will be lying liars, the ignorant masses will believe it.


72 posted on 04/03/2013 9:11:25 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Hardraade

Probably, but the ones I know can smell such a rat with no difficulty.


73 posted on 04/03/2013 9:14:58 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Good. More than ever, I’m convinced we’re going to need security and protected channels.


74 posted on 04/03/2013 9:43:01 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Hardraade

The organized opposition will be at the State level.

It is obvious that Texas leadership will be out on point along with a few other states. OK is sometimes ahead of us, but that is not an issue.


75 posted on 04/03/2013 9:51:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: BarnacleCenturion

76 posted on 04/03/2013 9:58:26 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Boogieman
They also didn’t buy 2 billion rounds of ammunition over the last year either. They initiated a multi-year purchase contract

I agree with you. But the meme is so entrenched that it's taken a life of its own.

77 posted on 04/03/2013 11:49:08 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

[Those that knew only slavery, and constantly wanted to go back to that system, had to die before a intellectually free people could go into the promised land.]

Yep.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3003556/posts?page=7#7


78 posted on 04/03/2013 5:01:27 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: JaguarXKE

Ive seen that at every tea party event I’ve been to, easy to spot.


79 posted on 04/04/2013 4:36:09 AM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: rarestia

> Problem is that once we’re all dead, there will be no one left to protect the liberties of the leech class.

Or to pay theri benefits. The American society would completely collapse. They have to allow enough slaves to live to support their house of cards.


80 posted on 04/04/2013 4:55:10 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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