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To: Tublecane

The following wealthy families are not communists. This list is taken from Ferdinand Lundberg’s 1937 expose on the super-rich in America.

Rockefeller Family Standard Oil
Morgan Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
Ford Family Ford Motors
Harkness Family Standard Oil
Mellon Family Aluminum Company
Vanderbilt Family NY Central R&R
Whitney Family Standard Oil
Standard Oil Families Standard Oil
Du Pont Family DuPont
McCormick Family International Harvester, Chicago Times
Baker Family First National Bank
Fisher Family General Motors
Guggenheim Family American Smelting & Refining Co.
Field Family Marshall Field’s
Curtis-Boks Family Curtis Publishing Co.
Duke Family American Tobacco Company
Berwind Family Berwind-White Coal Co.
Lehman Family Lehman Brothers
Widener Family American Tobacco Company, public utilities
Reynolds Family R. J. Reynolds
Astor Family Real estate
Winthrop Family Miscellaneous
Stillman Family Citibank
Timken Family Timken
Pitcairn Family Pittsburgh Plate Glass Co. (now PPG Ind.)
Warburg Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.

A couple names I want to add are Rothschild and Buffett.

Members of those families, or agents of those families, sit or have sat, as commissioners of Central Banks, of Federal Reserve banks, and of the IMF. They envision a world of peace through centralized monetary control by themsleves.

Under President George W. Bush our military was officially used to protect and defend the international corporate interests of the above people from assault by third world interests. The Clinton administrations did so likewise, but unofficially.

The result was jobs of the middle class went overseas and our military, funded by a shrinking tax-base due to unemployement, was sent off to do international policing.

It is all about money, power, and replacing the U.S. dollar with an international currency.

(The following is an excerpt from Alt-market.com.)

What will replace the dollar?

There is a replacement already conveniently ready to roll forward. The IMF has for a couple of years now openly called for the retirement of the dollar as the world reserve currency, to be supplanted by the elitist organization’s very own “Special Drawing Rights” (SDR’s).

The SDR is a paper mechanism created in the early 1970’s to replace gold as the primary means of international trade between foreign governments. Today, it has morphed into a basket of currencies which is recognized by almost every country in the world and is in a prime position to take the dollar’s place in the event that it loses reserve status.

This is not theory. This is cold hard reality. For those who claim that the SDR is not considered a “real currency”, they should probably warn the U.S. Post Office, which now uses conversion tables that denominate costs in SDR’s:

http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/immc3_007.htm

So, now that we know a replacement for the dollar is ready to go, the next obvious question would be:

Why would global elites destroy a useful monetary tool like the dollar? Why kill the goose that “lays the golden eggs”?

People who ask this question are simply unable to see outside the fiscal box they have been placed in. For global bankers, a paper currency is not important. It is expendable. Like a layer of snake skin; as the snake grows, it sheds the old and dawns the new.

At bottom, men who promote the philosophies of globalization greatly desire the exaltation of a global currency. The dollar, though a creation of a central bank, is still a semi-sovereign monetary unit. It is an element that is getting in the way of the application of the global currency dynamic.


54 posted on 03/17/2013 12:34:44 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

That link leads to nothing on postal/SDR matters...


58 posted on 03/17/2013 1:30:34 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: SatinDoll

——For global bankers, a paper currency is not important——

For some time now, currency is mostly a factor. That is a constant in an equation that adjusts the values of electronic ledger entries. Of course the constant is not really constant, it varies constantly. The variation is easy to track however and the ledger entries can be easily adjusted to accommodate the variability.

Money is not currency. Money is the value at a specific instant of an electronic ledger entry. All the money in the world with the exception of say, some tribes in New Guinea, is ultimately a zap in a computer.

The SDR’s of which you post are essentially special permits to access the electronic ledger directly to make the zaps necessary to facilitate trade.


73 posted on 03/17/2013 6:31:30 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: SatinDoll

Fine, not communist. At least they’re socialists, like I said. Or leftists, failing that. Whatever they are, they want to use the power of government—not merely the government we have now, but more government, new government, of ever bigger size and scope, pointing ultimately toward a one world state—to among other things maintain and grow their wealth.

We tend not to think of the super-rich, as you put it, as leftist. Or at least only to think of their bratty offspring as such. Of course, it’s been a long, long time since any Rockefeller, Morgan, Ford (a sad name to add to the list, considering how hard he fought to remain independent of the Rockefeller and Morgan cabals), etc. was enterprising and self-sufficient. But there’s no other term for what they are, except various specific kinds of socialism, like syndicalism and corporatism. You are free to deny they’re communists, and argue the socialists are their dupes. But when it comes to the end result you must categorize it somehow. And whether dreamer up by a utopian layabout red diaper baby or the board of trustees to a world famous tax-exempt endowment, there isn’t anything to Gallo what you describe as “a world of peace through centralized money control” but socialist.

This is not the Wall Street free marketeers have been known to defend. This is not families of super-rich weilding their private powers which uninitiated commies want to bring in the power of the state to regulate. This is the state, as run by people allied with, influenced by, and funded by the super-rich. This is what used to be called “rent-seeking.” Private wealth influencing government to bar entry by competition and secure for themselves an everlasting place of wealth and influence.

This is the ideology either guiding or guided by that sort of position, and the export of it, especially its purebred Anglo-Saxon strain, across the entire globe. This is the Corporate State. This is Mussolini’s syndicalism, only internationalist. This is Hillaire Belloc’s Servile State. This is Lenin’s Last Stage of Capitalism. This is what everyone accused Naziism of being, but wasn’t quite. This is leftwing Big Business.


77 posted on 03/17/2013 12:57:33 PM PDT by Tublecane
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