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To: HawkHogan; All
What's strange is that you are full of pronouncements yet lacking in any apparent historical knowledge of anything touching on these matters, even though, in the year around Barry's election, there was a great deal written right here in FR about every one of these things.

Asking questions you are yourself not willing to answer is a debating technique used to make it appear those you are addressing are unable to answer in a way detrimental to your case and, thus, that you must be correct.

It also preys on the ignorance of those who, perhaps, were not here during that time and are unaware of everything that had been discussed on these matters ad nauseum.

And it's a little misleading, in part, such as the "can they explain the other Presidents [sic] (ie NOT Obama) that didn't meet their Natural Born Citizen criteria?"

Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Jackson, and Harrison didn't meet the "natural born citizen" criteria because they were born before the founding, though they did meet the Constitutional requirements that specifically addressed this. Since then only Chester Arthur and Barry have been the only ones who have not; Arthur, because his father was still a Canadian citizen at the time of Chester's birth in the U.S.: and Barry, who has not demonstrated a U.S. birth in any but a belated, fraudulent manner, whose putative father was not at the time nor ever did become a U.S. citizen, and who, through his own words, declared himself to have been born abroad in Kenya to parents only one of which was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth (he did this in the author's blurb he wrote for one of his books).


279 posted on 03/09/2013 10:22:26 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Technically they couldn’t have been nbC simply because their parents, although born in this country, were born subjects of England.


291 posted on 03/09/2013 10:31:05 AM PST by Ladysforest
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To: aruanan

Well the birthers have the burden of proof. You are using a definition that is not found in The Constitution or case law. I don’t have to prove your definition, you do.


331 posted on 03/09/2013 11:05:49 AM PST by HawkHogan
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To: HawkHogan; All

Chester Arthur’s father was an Irish citizen at the time of Chester’s birth, not Canadian.


409 posted on 03/09/2013 12:43:40 PM PST by aruanan
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