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To: butterdezillion
No, the statute says that the verification confirms that the vital event did take place AND that the facts about the event are as stated in the applicants request.

IOW Hawaii have confirmed not only that Obama's BC contains all the information that Bennett asked about but it happened the way the BC describes.

It really is that simple.

1,494 posted on 03/14/2013 1:12:10 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

You didn’t answer any of my questions. You’re just repeating the same stuff without addressing any of my content. This is why it is a waste of time to talk to you.

Lurkers (if there are any), take note.

Lurkers, the cross-check for which of us (Natufian or me) is accurate is the additional requests using the standard wording to confirm the authenticity of a copy. Bennett asked Onaka to verify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record” and Onaka would not verify that. KS SOS Kris Kobach asked Onaka to verify that the “information contained in” the White House image is identical to the information contained in the original record, and Onaka wouldn’t verify that. Remember, he has to verify whatever the requestor asks him to verify, as long as he CAN.

If Natufian is right, then why wouldn’t Onaka verify that the information contained in the White House image was identical to the information contained in the original record? He was not asked if the information “matched”. He was asked if it was IDENTICAL. And he would not verify that. He also wouldn’t put his own initials next to the signature stamp of those 2 verifications, nor the raised seal.

The only verification he would put his initials and the raised seal on was the one where no birth facts were asked to be verified and it was only asked if the “information contained in the White House image matches”(which would work equally well for a non-valid BC as for a valid one, because the White House image doesn’t contain any information about evidence to support a late filing or alteration).

IOW, the only one Onaka had no qualms about was the request that works equally well for a non-valid BC. Which is exactly how MDEC designed their request. Because they knew that Onaka had verified to Bennett that the record is non-valid and they knew Onaka COULDN’T verify anything except that the claims that are actually included on the forgery are also claimed on the non-valid record. The non-valid record has extra information, though, that the forgery doesn’t have - specifically the notations that the BC is late and altered. They couldn’t even switch the order of the words around, to ask if the information in the original record matches the information in the White House image, because then the request would be asking about everything that’s on the real record, including the LATE and ALTERED stamps, and that DOESN’T match what’s on the White House image, because the White House image lacks that information.


1,501 posted on 03/14/2013 5:05:31 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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