How America Is Becoming A Police State

Whistleblower Magazine ^ | The March 2013 Issue

[2ndDivisionVet]

News reports that the federal Department of Homeland Security is stockpiling billions of rounds of ammunition have prompted many Americans to ask: Just who is the government preparing to go to war with?

To radio talker Mark Levin, the answer is that “our society is unraveling” and DHS is preparing for “the collapse of our financial system, the collapse of our society and the potential for widespread violence, looting, killing in the streets, because that’s what happens when an economy collapses.” Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin agrees, saying, “We’re going to default eventually and that’s why the feds are stockpiling bullets in case of civil unrest.”

But all this, dire as it sounds, is just the tip of the iceberg. As WND’s acclaimed monthly Whistleblower magazine documents in its March issue, “HOW AMERICA IS BECOMING A POLICE STATE,” one major way Barack Obama’s “fundamental transformation of America” is manifesting in the changing face of law enforcement – local and state, but especially federal.

The signs are everywhere:

Drones are flying overhead – not in Yemen, but here in the U.S., above your house, perhaps photographing you. The FAA anticipates 10,000 domestic drones in the next few years, and at least one police chief has publicly announced he wants to arm his drones with tear gas and rubber bullets.

Meanwhile, the Transportation Security Administration, having traumatized countless air travelers with its signature nude X-ray imaging and invasive pat-downs of ailing grandmothers and crying 3-year-old handicapped children in wheelchairs, is now expanding from airports to bus terminals and subways.

Even local police forces increasingly resemble an occupying army...

[Paladin2]

It’d be better to develop stratergies/tacteries to achieve a 5:1 or 10:1 outcome.

[ThunderSleeps]

If it comes to a fight, I’d rather go out on the offensive.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Yeah, we sure beat those jihadists in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, the Southern Philippines and Pakistan with those missiles, didn’t we? BTW, Hellfires are over $55,000 a piece and are in limited supply. We had every kind of jet and propeller military aircraft in Vietnam with early smart boms. How did that work out for us?

[tiki]

If they are waiting to kill rioters they will only kill their own constituents. Never say never but I don’t think I’d join a riot, I would use “strategery”.

[Slyfox]

We are the enemy.

[jy8z]

I've wondered how I will die... the likelihood is growing it'll be by taking rounds to the head attempting to fend off government attackers on my home and family. It beats a slow death by cancer, I suppose...

I've pretty much accepted the fact that I'll die knee deep in brass resisting the imposition of government forces

So be it.

[ScottinVA]

I referred to the potential use of Hellfires against Americans. There is nothing I would put past this regime.

[Greysard]

The more pertinent question is, “What good can a handgun do against a Hellfire missile?” Answer: Not much.

There is yet another, more pertinent question. How many of those Hellfires will be launched until there is nobody left to launch them?

A supervillain with a superweapon is always succumbing to a hero. It pleases us to be so. But it is also the law of nature. There is only one such guy left on Earth; he is a dictator of North Korea. He is alive only because he doesn't bother any of his neighbors. Historically speaking, we saw many such supervillains, and they often had superior weapons. Those suprevillains are all dead and buried.

In this case, a Hellfire missile requires several important factors to be just right. Such as:

1. The target audience. You are supposed to be sitting at home, watching TV and not expecting a Hellfire in your window.
2. The intelligence about the target. Your neighbor, or an assigned police watcher, or another drone, has to track your whereabouts.
3. The availability of the missile. Their stock is not infinite, and you can be assured that not many more will be made when the extent of the domestic carnage becomes known.
4. The availability of the operators. Most of them protect the Constitution, not a wannabe dictator. Those who support the dictator, please see (11) below.
5. The orders. Not everyone in a long chain of command wants to become a war criminal. The commanders are all highly educated military specialists, and they understand that their chances of "winning" this war are not more than zero. When they are done, the new Nuremberg trial will be underway, and there will be many foreign countries willing to lend a hand, for their own reasons.
6. The Congress. However mad they are, they aren't likely to authorize a large scale war against their own people. This alone will give the military all the excuse they need to delay the war. If the Supreme Court also opines that it might be not a good idea to kill americans left and right, then the orders from the White House are null and void.
7. The competence. The White House cannot solve much easier problems in peace conditions. Why should we expect them to exhibit characteristics of a genius when it's war out there?
8. The sabotage. If the military cannot refuse the orders that came down the proper chain of commands, they can mess them up. (The term SNAFU was born during many training exercises for that event, I guess :-)
9. The opponent. Returning back to the first item on the list - the opponent is not very likely to sit quietly and expect the missile. Many of the high value opponents have military background themselves and know what to do. There aren't enough Hellfires in the whole world for all the low value targets.
10. The country. This is a very large place. You can hide in cities and in forests, in hills and in deserts. No Hellfire will find you there. If the police finds you, the Dorner's case shows that they will pay dearly for that mistake. The attacking side always has more losses than the defending side. Even one to one exchange is unacceptable for the attackers; however the defender can always take one terrorist down with his first shot.
11. Mutual proximity of both sides. Both the population and the terrorists will be living in the same cities, driving to work on the same roads. Short of locking themselves up on fortified bases, the terrorists will not survive for long if the population knows where they live. If they do lock themselves up, I suggest they have plenty of stockpiled food and water, lest they get a pinch of rat poison in their chow. No convoys with food and munitions will get through to them. A MRAP can protect them from IED, but no MRAP, as far as I know, can levitate over destroyed portions of roads. An airlift is yet another level of cost and complexity; the choppers need the fuel anyway, and it has to come from somewhere. There are no underground pipes from refineries to bases, AFAIK. If there are some, they are vulnerable.
12. The money. The US government needs lots of money to wage war, especially because all raw materials and most of electronic components come from abroad. What are the chances that China will keep propping up the empty shell and lending money to the paper tiger? China will do well if they switch sides at that very moment. I cannot imagine any country in the world that would support the US government from that point on, for the same reason - it has no future, win or lose.

I'm sure there are more interesting factors to discuss. But if we focus on Hellfire, the first one will be also the last one.

[2ndDivisionVet]

I understood your post. If Hellfires won’t work to win a war in a desert, how well will they work in an urban, suburban or rural first world country. No war has ever been won from the air. There’s a reason for that.

[PLMerite]

Good stuff. Thanks.

[VeniVidiVici]

To radio talker Mark Levin, the answer is that “our society is unraveling” and DHS is preparing for “the collapse of our financial system, the collapse of our society and the potential for widespread violence, looting, killing in the streets, because that’s what happens when an economy collapses.” Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin agrees, saying, “We’re going to default eventually and that’s why the feds are stockpiling bullets in case of civil unrest.”

What's hilarious is that the Left is smacking Sarah Palin around for suggesting that this ammo being stockpiled by DHS will be used against the American people.

If the Left is saying that DHS WON'T use it on the American people, just who the hell do they think DHS will use it on?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If they are waiting to kill rioters they will only kill their own constituents.

Once the riots start they can go anywhere they want and kill anyone they want and blame it on the riots.

[KarlInOhio]

. I am confident that most local law enforcement and particularly the US military would not open fire on US citizens, but would likely turn their guns on the oppressors in Washington.

And I was convinced that Republican governors would be the last line of defense against Obamacare by refusing to participate and overwhelming the federal system with the population of their states. Now more and more are rolling over like ten dollar whores. (apologies to the prostitutes of America for the unfavorable comparison to politicians).

Clear out the percentage of soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen who absolutely won't fire on Americans. Threaten the rest with courts martial, loss of pay and loss of retirement benefits and you have a military willing to kill any rebels disobeying Washington. And as shown by local cops' actions, I doubt they would even require many removed or threatened for the same results.

Be on the look out for loyalty and psychological tests for the military. They will be a sign things are going to go very badly very soon.

[PGalt]

Great thread. Very good read...here...

http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/kofod2.1.1.html

h/t zerohedge poster CH1

[stormryter]

“hang those who gave the orders.”

It will be many more than just those giving the orders doing a Mussolini hand stand.
I doubt NYC will have anyone left to man the evening news as the press has been the source of most or our problems. Selective reporting is worse than not reporting.

[Travis McGee]

[Travis McGee]

"Selective reporting is worse than not reporting."

[stormryter]

“”Look for the oligarchs to retreat to their perimeter controlled island fortresses protected by the ‘domestic army’ “”

They better find a way to feed themselves because nothing will roll across the bridges and in 48 hours the people on the island will be eating,,, ,,, ,,, each other...

[jmacusa]

By God The Founders would have wondered why we hadn’t.

[magooey]

Be on the look out for loyalty and psychological tests for the military. They will be a sign things are going to go very badly very soon.

The new model armies at the DHS and other agencies have loyalty oaths to who, exactly? The Constitution or the President?