Posted on 02/25/2013 9:25:42 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Today, I had a conversation with an investigator from the Cold Case Posse in AZ. We talked and I expanded on several dossiers filled with evidence for over an hour. They asked for all of my relevant information on Obama, the Harry Bounel alias evidence, and the dossiers I completed on Stanley Ann Dunham, her parents, and Michelle Obama as well. They have it all. BTW they also say that it looks like my information cannot be disproved and will be useful.
I have proof, definitive proof that Stanley Ann Dunham was in WA state in "1961" as per the issuance of a SSN numident in her name with the SSN 535-40-8522. There is no way that she was in HI and I have proof because in the fall she was in college in WA, not HI.
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So if Dunham and Soetoro were stripped of parental rights in 1973 then how could Obama be dependent on them for education in 1980? Legally they wouldn’t be his parents anymore, would they?
Proper steps to insure mainstream media attention have not been taken.
Have the Republicans in the House of Representatives held any congressional hearings on any of these issues in order to draw the attention of the mainstream media?
Has any conservative district attorney or state’s Attorney General convened a Grand Jury to investigate any of those issues for possible indictments? The mainstream media would sure cover that.
Since the administration of President Grant, every major scandal involving the US presidency has had a grand jury investigation, except the Obama administration. The media LOVES to cover witnesses being hauled before a Grand Jury.
Can anybody name a member of Congress who has called for the appointment of an Independent Counsel to look into the Obama ineligibility allegations? Remember that it was Attorney General Janet Reno who was pressured into the appointment of Judge Ken Starr that led to the Clinton impeachment.
Anybody remember the Watergate Grand Jury, the Iran-Contra Grand Jury or the Whitewater Grand Jury? Anybody remember Web Hubble, Clinton’s Deputy Attorney General going to jail? Anybody remember Clinton’s buddy Susan McDougal being held in prison indefinitely for Contempt of Court?
Anybody remember Scooter Libby?
Grand Juries makes headlines and the lead story on the nightly news.
It would give me great pleasure to see The One prematurely leaving office ahead of a boot. Seek justice though the heavens tremble.
Lets try to restructure the question at hand.
Instead of asking for proof of a specific action lets look at what did or did not make sense of the situation at hand.
1. How does a child of around 10 years old travel ALONE (as claimed in his book) from Jakarta, Indonesia to Honolulu, Hawaii, through immigration, through customs, with at least one stop and likely plane transfer in Japan in 1970 or 1971?
Answer: He does not. Some adult HAD to have accompanied him. I have a suspicion that has no material backing who that adult is. But it would be safe to say a child does not make that trip completely alone.
2. Who is the legal guardian after January of 1972 when the ‘Grand Family Reunion of December 1971 and early January 1972 is over? Does the supposed biological mother retain guardianship even though she is an Indonesian citizen and returning ‘indefinitely’ to Indonesia without her child? Is the supposed (but regardless, legal) biological father who is merely visiting the island of Hawaii during the time and who is not and never was a US citizen? Is it the grandmother and grandfather who appear to be taking over responsibility for the child going forward since both original parents are foreign citizens and neither is staying in the US and neither has any plans to ever return? Or is it an agency that has responsibility for refugee foreign children?
Answer: it has to be one of the 2 last options. There is no reason the permanent guardian would be a foreign citizen or expat American who, if she is presenting herself as an American citizen while in Hawaii (which she could have) would be violating the law in the country she calls home - Indonesia. Neither ‘parent’ has any specific plans to EVER return to the US. So as of the early 1970s Obama had to be under the guardianship of someone other than either supposed biological and legal parents.
Sven offers the only known explanation to the questions above. If his story is to be rejected then another story is needed to fill the void that would be left if it is not true. Someone or some agency was Obama’s legal guardian after January of 1971 that was not his supposed parents - that has to be accepted as fact. It would seem that of the possibilities Svens story would have at least a 50/50 chance of being correct given the only other viable option would likely be the grandparents. How would that be verified? Likely via medical and school records from 1971 to 1980. Where are those?
If ConcernedFreepers are able to post the Soetoro tax return from 1973, then why can’t they post Stanley and Madelyn Dunham’s 1973 tax return?
Is it because Obama was in the custody of Catholic Social Services of Connecticut and neither of the Soetoros or Dunhams claimed Obama as a dependent?
If ConcernedFreepers are able to post the Soetoro tax return from 1973, then why can’t they post Stanley and Madelyn Dunham’s 1973 tax return?
Is it because Obama was in the custody of Catholic Social Services of Connecticut and neither of the Soetoros or Dunhams claimed Obama as a dependent?
the reason obama was not claimed on the 1973 tax return is because stanley ann dunham is not his mother- Barry’s real mother died in 1970 according to virginia goeldner- thats why Madelyn got custody of little barry
“His ineligibility was known by the public.”
While I support the MvH definition of NBC, you and I can agree to disagree on what the public understands to be the truth.
100% of the US congress failed to object to the electoral results TWICE demonstrating to the public the belief by congress that any muddy NBC issues (way beyond the ability of the public to comprehend) had been resolved in favor of Barry.
I don’t think it is correct to claim that the de facto rule wouldn’t apply due to the public seeing Barry “present the appearance of being an intruder or usurper.” The majority of the public sees Barry as completely legitimate.
The public thinks Barry was born in the US and they are told by 99% of the legal establishment and courts that that is all that counts.
Therefore any subsequent finding that Barry was actually born outside the US, (in Kenya, for example) would be a new fact previously unknown to the public and the de facto officer doctrine would apply, IMO.
I am too. What is our government going to do with all those weapons and billions of rounds of ammunition?
OMG - I thought you were talking about our government buying all that ammunition. You’re worried about citizens who are armed, storing food and learning how to can?
Tell me you’re kidding.
Read 18a on Barrys BC— it says “Signature of Parent OR other Informant” then below that you see “Stanley” in brackets added later- anna is who we lookin for— Strange?
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You said Mr. Magnussen: “I don’t post copies of any evidence I have proving Obama is ineligible......
What a pity!!
Those large scale riots you mentioned have happened before as well, in quite a number of predominantly black neighborhoods in major cities in the 1960s. That civil war you mentioned has happened before as well, albeit regarding different issues. Yet the United States of America has survived through all of that.
It is not the USA anymore if the rule of law goes missing in action all because of fear of the possible consequences of following it. The just rule of law treats all citizens (and, separately, all non-citizens) equally, regardless of color or nationality or ethnicity. If the rule of law is abandoned, the rule of the jungle is substituted in its place, and the American civilization will be gone forever.
Yes, we do know already that Stanley Ann Dunham was in Washington State by late August in 1961, as seen in Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Cirtificate?", published about two years ago. And we do know that she attended the University of Washington in Seattle in the Fall 1961 semester and can also place her at a specific Seattle address at that time. Furthermore, there wasn't much of a controversy about her Social Security number, which is listed with her name in the Social Security Death Index and was issued to her in Washington State.
But even with that info in hand, it is still possible that Stanley Ann was elsewhere, either within the US or in another country. at the time of baby Barack's purported birth, Aug. 4, 1961.
Sincerest best wishes to the Cold Case Posse for ultimate success in solving the Barack Obama birth mystery.
In 1959 Tom Mboya discussed with President John Kennedy how they might raise funds for Kenyan students to study in the USA. Funds for the purpose were made available in 1960. The first airlift of 83 students arrived at Idelwild airport in September 1959. The students on board were selected by Mboya, the selection process was apparently very stringent, any slightest misdemeanor or criminal records elminated a candidate from selection. The fares were paid by Jackie Robinson and friends, that arrival list shows that the elder Barack Hussein Obama was NOT amongst the first arrivals. The first arrivals were met by CORA WEISS and Malcom X. Cora Weiss held the purse-stings of the association, the records are in her private collection held at Stanford. Barack Hussein Obama (Onyango) was already in Hawaii and had been interviewed one month PRIOR to the arrival of the students at Idelwild...he arrived in Hawaii in AUGUST. The fare for his journey plus some funds for living expenses were supplied by Elizabeth Mooney-Kirk and the LAUBACH LITERARY society. Barack Hussein Obama (Onyango) did at a later time receive some funds through the AASF, but that connection was established after Elizabeth Mooney-Kirk married and could no longer contribute to his living expenses. Any connection to Mboya or the airlift appears to be a myth.
“If ConcernedFreepers are able to post the Soetoro tax return from 1973, then why can’t they post Stanley and Madelyn Dunham’s 1973 tax return?”
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Do you or anyone else know Anna Obama’s Social Security number? thx
The De facto Officer doctrine applies to any elected official who goes through the proper statutory steps that are required to assume an office.
In the case of a president, that’s gaining a party’s nomination (most of the states’ election laws leave vetting up to the political parties) or collecting enough signatures to be on states’ ballots in the case of an independent; winning a majority of the votes of the Electors; having the Electoral votes certified by Congress and taking the Oath of Office.
At any stage of the process, a candidate’s credentials can be challenged, as Obama’s have been more than 200 times. But none of the challenges has proven successful.
Since no state excluded him from the ballot, Congress sends him bills to sign into law, the Senate confirms his appointments and the Supreme Court has upheld his policy initiatives as constitutional, under the de facto officer doctrine, he is the president.
Impeachment/conviction or resignation are the ways to remove him from office.
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