Oh, what Tea Party organizations are those?
"I don’t know for sure who these people are who are so negative but claim they are tea party. And I don’t know you, either."I suspect that most of the people who are freaking out over a conservative cruise are trolls."
Well that was precisely the point I was conveying to you. And it looked bad that you just assumed they were tea partiers earlier with out knowing that tea partiers do NOT act like that.
So it seemed you had no real knowledge of what the TPM is all about and the character of it's members.
Now you seem to be including me in with those trolls (glad you finally recognize them as such) because you seem to have decided that I am "freaking out over a conservative cruise."
I've done no such thing, just called you on trying to push selling the the cruise to me when ever you reply to my posts.
I now have to deal with a few who prefer to be nasty. I really don’t need complainers on the ship, so if you don’t want to go on a 7-dat trip with ...[removed more promotion]...please DON’T. If you want a different kind of event, then for Heaven’s sake, plan it yourself.There you go again, making it seem I am dissing your event so I can promote my own.
I have been in on the planning of hundreds of tea parties and rubbed elbows with hundreds of thousands of tea party type people and NEVER believed for one second when any of them acted like OWS, while you seem to have accepted that those types could be legitimate tea partiers
Any tea partiers I know would have spotted the false intruders in a nano-second when they acted like OWSers. You, on the other hand, decided to diss tea partiers by seeing the OWS types as legit.
So again, what tea party organizers (and which tea parties) have you "helping with" since 2009?
First of all, I’m concerned about the tea party looking bad, as you are. My friend who posted on her big fb page got huge blowback from people who are long time followers, who purport to be tea party. They made lots of deprecating comments about the cruise being for the rich, suggested I was getting something for free, were mad they couldn’t afford it, insisted we do something else, like a campground event, and suggested that cruisers were in danger. Some of the comments made the writers look like nuts.
I wondered, do some of the people out there claiming to be tea party actually have more in common with OWS? When I read all the class warfare rhetoric in these fb posts, it infuriated me, because I couldn’t figure out where it was coming from.
In all my time with tea party networks and groups in my home state as well as my work with national groups, I’ve had mostly good experiences. I’ve worked closely with AFP, Leadership Institute in D.C., American Majority, and Franklin Center, as well as a state-wide CPAC. I’ve also managed a state senate campaign. I got kicked around a little during the union riot in Lansing Michigan, when union thugs knocked down the AFP tent. I participated in the first big tea parties of 2009, and continue to support the tea parties today. I’ve done a lot of documenting for tea party rallies throughout my state over the years.
Just because someone says they’re tea party doesn’t mean they’re not divisive. I am trying to bring attention to the fact that this crabbing about my event is an example of a negativity that is not good for us. The left is laughing at us. The divisiveness will destroy the movement if we’re not more circumspect.
I would think that nice tea party folks wouldn’t automatically try to shoot down ideas from fellow conservatives. Hence my confusion and anger when they apparently did.
We’re really on the same side, Syncro. I didn’t know you did events too until your last post. I’ll make you a deal: you organize a conservative event, and I’ll help you promote it. I don’t care what kind of an event it is, and I don’t care if you make money on it. i don’t care if we disagree on details of whatever platform you stand on. I will promote it.
Please don’t reply back with demands for more details of proof of my affiliation with the tea party is. I believe you when you say that of the hundreds of thousands of TPM you’ve rubbed elbows with, no one acted like OWS. That’s been my experience too. Once again, I referred in my article to internet blowback, and one conservative lady that snarled at me. I didn’t accuse tea partiers of bad behavior, just bad opinions that are similar to the class warfare rhetoric of the OWS. Once again, this is not good for us.
The cruise isn’t for everyone, just as a camping event or trip to D.C. isn’t for everyone. I never said it was.