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To: ConstantSkeptic
"What evidence effectively refutes the prima facie evidence of a state certified birth certificate?"

Where is this "prima facie evidence" - a paper document with requisite seals?

NOWHERE

There are only websites with JPEGs, PDF files, and print copies of JPEGs from websites.

We want to see the "prima facie evidence" IN COURT.

You are a lousy skeptic. Illogical and nonsensical.

And as Butterdezillion has shown, Onaka's verification letters are anything BUT verifications. They are completely the opposite. Like double negatives.

124 posted on 01/28/2013 9:07:23 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

Where is this “prima facie evidence” - a paper document with requisite seals?

NOWHERE


You’re absolutely right that Obama has not been required to present his Certificate of Live Birth in any court. As I said before, it is MY belief that Hawaii would provide him with one stating that he was born in Hawaii. You may believe otherwise. That’s your privilege.

Do you understand how courts work? You can’t just go in and say “I don’t believe you were born in the U.S. Prove it!” If anyone could possibly challenge Obama’s place of birth in court, all Obama would have to do is produce a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii with the signature and seal, and then the burden of proving that false would be on the accuser. I can’t imagine that anyone can prove fraud regarding that 50 year old event. That is was Arpaio and his posse has to do. Obama or his crew may have somehow committed fraud with the online documents, but that doesn’t negate his eligibility. Can Arpaio prove fraud regarding Hawaii’s records? That’s the challenge he faces.


128 posted on 01/28/2013 10:09:45 AM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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