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To: Smokeyblue

Where is this “prima facie evidence” - a paper document with requisite seals?

NOWHERE


You’re absolutely right that Obama has not been required to present his Certificate of Live Birth in any court. As I said before, it is MY belief that Hawaii would provide him with one stating that he was born in Hawaii. You may believe otherwise. That’s your privilege.

Do you understand how courts work? You can’t just go in and say “I don’t believe you were born in the U.S. Prove it!” If anyone could possibly challenge Obama’s place of birth in court, all Obama would have to do is produce a Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii with the signature and seal, and then the burden of proving that false would be on the accuser. I can’t imagine that anyone can prove fraud regarding that 50 year old event. That is was Arpaio and his posse has to do. Obama or his crew may have somehow committed fraud with the online documents, but that doesn’t negate his eligibility. Can Arpaio prove fraud regarding Hawaii’s records? That’s the challenge he faces.


128 posted on 01/28/2013 10:09:45 AM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic

“Can Arpaio prove fraud regarding Hawaii’s records? That’s the challenge he faces.”

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Apario has proven it. Many, many others independently have as well. See videos posted above as small representation of the ‘proof’. The COLB fraud is less obvious but it is still a fraud as well. And with the WH using a browser print-out from SNOPES the possibility this actual ‘document’ still exist must be considered in serious doubt at this point.

The real challenge is probably getting anyone with any sort of authority to care.

Is the AG in Hawaii going to investigate? Of course not. Is the FBI going to formally investigate document tampering and fraud in this matter? Obviously not. Is Congress going to pick up this subject with all the political dynamics that would come it? Hardly.

Using the old saying about the tree in the forest.

The tree fell in the forest and everyone heard it. But will anyone say it fell if no one cares?

Sadly, this is the state of affairs.


129 posted on 01/28/2013 10:24:28 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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