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To: DustyMoment

God Bless Orly, but it looks like she is messing things up. This from a researcher that posted in the comments section on the birther report:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/new-york-census-confirms-obama-alias.html

Leslie · 1 hour ago
I discovered the reference to Harry Bounel in the 1940 census back in Oct 2012 and have been working with Albert Hendershot quietly for three months now to get CONCRETE proof that this is the original holder of O’s social security number. Orly’s information is misleading. First the Bounel in the Bronx census is a white man born in 1890 Russia, and he became a naturalized citizen. The Bonnel that she believes was living with Michelle’s family in CT is not the same man. The one in CT is listed as born 1860, with a different name spelling, and is mulatto. She is confusing information.

Secondly, there is no known connection to the Newtown CT area nor to any of the hospitals there. A death certificate for Harry Bounel born in Russia has not yet been found. She is running on assumptions. She is assuming that the Bonnel showing in the 1910 census and the one in the 1940 census in NY are the same person. They are not.

Third, and finally, none of her information can be proved until a death certificate for Harry Bounel is found. I have personally submitted FOIAs to the SS admin and have gone back and forth with them for three months now trying to get information. They are asking for proof of death. What I have done with them DOES show a positive inference that O is using Bounel’s SS#, however it is not proof and won’t stand up in a court of law. My research will now be hampered by Orly prematurely publishing the connection and including misinformation. Any headway I’ve gained will now be shut down because all avenues to gain documentation will be closed. This is the reason Al and I were keeping this to ourselves so we could find actual proof, not supposition. I had the SS admin in check and was going in for the checkmate, but now that she’s published this all doors to documentary proof will be closed.

Al, and I, will publish an article about what I’ve done shortly, now that we’ve been forced into being public about it by Orly once again grasping at straws and prematurely tipping our hand.


45 posted on 01/19/2013 1:02:05 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: JohnnyP; All; LucyT; Flotsam_Jetsome; Red Steel

The Birther Report has now edited the article to remove attribution of the Ancestors.com find from Taitz.

In addition to the clarifying comment on that site in comment #45 of this thread, an additional comment from “Leslie” (working with Albert Hendershot) has been posted:

Leslie · 2 hours ago

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I find it very ironic that only three or four days after I received my last response to my FOIA that she would be jumping on this info. The census has been online since Sep. 2012, and a copy of it has been posted on Al’s facebook page since the day I forwarded it to him in early Oct. Yet, she has never even looked at it nor has she connected the dots until just after I received my recent response to my FOIA requests. Now, she has confused the narrative with false information and alerted all agencies involved by publishing this info in advance of me obtaining any concrete proof. At this point, because of the way she’s framed the story, I expect to get laughed at for pursuing the info, and to be denied access to any hard copy records that may exist. Not only that, but if she plans to try to use this info in a courtroom, she will be laughed out of there for providing nothing but unsubstantiated speculation. Basically, what she has done here is a real Alinsky style tactic which will make it far more difficult for serious research to be done. The only info obtained thus far, that can be proven, is there was a Harry Bounel born in 1890 Russia who became a US citizen at some point and would have been able to obtain a SS# legally. I have established an indirect connection between the SS# that O is using, and this particular Harry Bounel through my FOIA requests. However, any direct concrete evidence is going to be far more difficult to get now that all agencies are alerted through her blog post and the steel doors will be slammed when requesting info from any CT agency.

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57 posted on 01/19/2013 4:08:08 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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