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To: Baynative; celtic gal
Baynative wrote:
He could be proved ineligible and it would [sic] matter a lick: ....

celtic gal wrote:
I keep praying for some grounds to surface for Impeachment and ultimate prison for 0bama and all his henchpersons...

And this exposes what was so pernicious and insideous about the Leftists' defense of Bill Clinton's crimes, and the Senate aquitting him of both Impeachment charges in February 1999: he commited crimes; two of four charges of Impeachment cleared the House and were sent to the Senate; and a trial ensued.

But it didn't matter a lick.

Worse, precident was set. The failure of our Political Process to hold accountable those who couldn't exercise self-restraint or hold themselves accountable was revealed. Trumpeted even: that tiresome yarn, "everybody lies about sex", was oh-so-threadbare at the end. But it still worked. If you or I lied to a Federal Grand Jury (even about sex), we'd face jailtime or other terrible consequences. Bill Clinton? The only consequence was sick celebrity.

Bill Clinton's crimes were bad enough. But they were mere peccadilloes compared to the mendacious actions and behaviors in which The Ruling Class™ currently engages.

I suspect that Obama's eligibility and certification will one day be looked back upon as the turning point. Future historians will hang on that nailhead the notion that America began to bottom-out when we failed to take seriously the plain language of our Foundational Law of the Land that is the US Constitution. That because we ignored the plain precepts of a Natural Born Cititzen; that because we engaged in either nuanced arguments to muddy the clear Constitutional waters, or we engaged in eligibilty end-runs in an effort to be expeient; and that because we used twisted logic and pretzled thinking to rationalize our own feckless behaviors as we frittered away the sanctity of our free-elections: future historians will no doubt point to the Presidential election of 2008 as a watershed moment. A flow of water most foul; the influent to a waste water treatment plant seen as cleaner.

That 2008 will serve as a bookmark when the United States of America, though still a Nation of Laws on paper, ceased to be be one in practice; that we became a Nation of Men--with all the accompanying cronism and patronage--instead.

Even so, I refuse to abandon hope for our Representative Republic. Sure, the elections of 2008 and 2012 might be where America began to bottom-out. But I refuse to believe we will stay there.

40 posted on 01/12/2013 5:01:21 AM PST by Jefferson Spins (in his grave at Monticello because our republic is imperiled from within.)
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To: Jefferson Spins

I hope you are right. I agree with all you said in your statement. I would hope the nation I served in the Armed Forces was not for all for naught.


52 posted on 01/12/2013 9:07:56 PM PST by celtic gal
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