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What this amendment ACTUALLY says is that health care coverage, premium rates, and any participation in health and wellness programs shall not be affected by an individual’s lawful ownership, use, or storage of firearms or ammunition, nor shall such data be collected on individuals (Sec. 10101)

This is a restriction placed on health care providers NOT the government. It neither strengthens or weakens the 2nd Amendment. It has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.

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The section goes further to prohibit government collection of data — but it is limited to government action pursuant to the health care law

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One of the ways to remove firearms from someone is to deem them unfit. In fact, that is part of the gun control conversation now.
You need a doctor to do that.
Obamacare prohibits the doctors from recording anything concerning firearms, specifically research and reporting to the state or federal government. and action being taken against the patient in regards to his guns.
This means Obama might be responsible for the all the shootings since his act has been enacted , since it tied the hands of doctors or/and caused massive confusion among them
I wonder if the Colorado shooters shrink was prevented in asking Holmes if he had guns or prevented her from reporting that he does.

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6 posted on 01/09/2013 7:10:06 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing

‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—øAs
added by section 10101(e)(2)¿
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information
relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
of an individual; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities
provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection
of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by
that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to
maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a
firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any
health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with
the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
information under any data collection activity authorized
under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
amendment made by that Act relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition.
‘‘(d) REGULATIONS.—Not later than 2 years after the date of enactment
of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the Secretary
shall promulgate regulations that provide criteria for determining
whether a reimbursement structure is described in subsection
(a).
‘‘(e) STUDY AND REPORT.—Not later than 180 days after the
date on which regulations are promulgated under subsection (c),
the Government Accountability Office shall review such regulations
and conduct a study and submit to the Committee on Health, Education,
Labor, and Pensions of the Senate and the Committee on
Energy and Commerce of the House of Representatives a report regarding
the impact the activities under this section have had on
the quality and cost of health care.


7 posted on 01/09/2013 7:11:10 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing

Should have come back to the thread before posting. You are absolutely right. Every single article on this begins with “According to reports” and not one of them bothered to check the actual amendment to see if it was even remotely true.
Either the orig on cnn was done by a fool, or it was a deliberate setup for exactly the reaction it got. Would cnn lie to you?
HELL yes.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 7:52:13 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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