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According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot collect "any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.

And according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV),that's exactly right. He says he added the provision in order to keep the NRA from getting involved in the legislative fight over Obamacare,which was so ubiquitous in 2010.

1 posted on 01/09/2013 7:01:24 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

ha!


2 posted on 01/09/2013 7:05:27 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: opentalk

Wow, Harry Reid did something good by accident.Wonder what other little gems are hidden in that law. Betcha Judge Roberts knows.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 7:07:02 PM PST by madison10
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To: opentalk

That might not be accurate report from Breitbart. Read the first few comments under the article at the link....


4 posted on 01/09/2013 7:07:25 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: opentalk

5 posted on 01/09/2013 7:10:06 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: opentalk

So Reid gets to pander to his base KNOWING he had already blocked what obastard wants. As much as I despise Reid, maybe the NRA was right to back the scumbag. Or did for this exact reason?


8 posted on 01/09/2013 7:12:36 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: opentalk; BCR #226

Holy crap! Did Obamacare just cancel NFA?


9 posted on 01/09/2013 7:17:50 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: opentalk

Reports describe this as a Senate amendment. Is it actually federal law in the final bill?


10 posted on 01/09/2013 7:21:20 PM PST by tbw2
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To: opentalk
...the government cannot collect "any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.

Who gets to define "lawful"?

12 posted on 01/09/2013 7:31:32 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: opentalk
i guess palousey might wish she read it before she passed it...
14 posted on 01/09/2013 7:37:16 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: opentalk

Do the research...before you laugh. He who laughs first...
From the comments:
“What this amendment ACTUALLY says is that health care coverage, premium rates, and any participation in health and wellness programs shall not be affected by an individual’s lawful ownership, use, or storage of firearms or ammunition, nor shall such data be collected on individuals (Sec. 10101)”

Lo and behold, that is exactly what it says.
Lord, love a duck.

Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.
‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT
GUN RIGHTS.—
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—
A wellness and health promotion
activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or
collection of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfullypossessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence
or on the property of an individual; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage
of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None
of the authorities provided to the Secretary
under the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act or an amendment made by that Act
shall be construed to authorize or may be
used for the collection of any information relating
to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
a firearm or ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition;
or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA
BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to
the Secretary under the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
made by that Act shall be construed to authorize
or may be used to maintain records
of individual ownership or possession of a
firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM
RATES OR ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—
A premium rate may not be increased,
health insurance coverage may not
be denied, and a discount, rebate, or reward
offered for participation in a wellness program
may not be reduced or withheld under
VerDate Nov 24 2008 02:40 Mar 11, 2010 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00020 Fmt 0624 Sfmt 0634 E:\RECORD09\S19DE9.REC S19DE9 mmaher on DSK69SOYB1PROD with CONG-REC-ONLINE
December 19, 2009 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE S13491
any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or
in accordance with the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance
upon—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm
or ammunition.
‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS
FOR INDIVIDUALS.—No individual
shall be required to disclose any information
under any data collection activity authorized
under the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act or an amendment made by
that Act relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage
of a firearm or ammunition.’’.
******************************************

” WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—
A wellness and health promotion
activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or
collection of any information relating to—”

It has nothing to do with ANYTHING ELSE BUT OBAMACARE.
IF they make firearms illegal or confiscate your fireams, this amendment is moot.


15 posted on 01/09/2013 7:41:56 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: zot

see post 7 for text


16 posted on 01/09/2013 7:42:58 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: opentalk

This was posted under the article. I feel foolish now after sending it to the NRA and the reading this :o(

From commenter under article:
...I swear this Awr person is either the most disingenuous person alive or is simply incapable of reading.

What this amendment ACTUALLY says is that health care coverage, premium rates, and any participation in health and wellness programs shall not be affected by an individual’s lawful ownership, use, or storage of firearms or ammunition, nor shall such data be collected on individuals (Sec. 10101)

This is a restriction placed on health care providers NOT the government. It neither strengthens or weakens the 2nd Amendment. It has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.


17 posted on 01/09/2013 7:46:15 PM PST by Capt.Michaels (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: opentalk

Wow... Good news.


20 posted on 01/09/2013 9:59:00 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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