MORE Reasons We're Not Forking-Over Our Guns to a Government That Just Bought 1.4B Rounds of Ammo...

Reaganite Republican ^ | 09 January 2013 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

You didn't hear about all that?

Plenty more cause-to-suspect the intentions of this vile regime where that came from, and do keep in mind that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution was intended to protect the populace from the actions of a tyrannical government
-it wasn't meant for hunting, or even stopping stage-coach robberies- it's there primarily to defend Liberty from precisely the type of megalomaniacal leaders we find ourselves saddled with today...

• Powerful CA Senator Diane Feinstein has come right-out and stated her end-goal as confiscation of ALL guns in this country...

• President Obama has twice called for a
  'Civilian National Security Force' just as strong, just as well-armed as the U.S. military

• DHS has now ordered over 1.4 BILLION rounds of ammo in the last six months (!), much of it sniper-caliber, hollow-tip, etc.. so just when will we be allowed to ask Janet Napolitano why her highly-politicized -and now militarized- Homeland Security Department has stocked up 25+ rounds for each and every Republican...?

• And what's up with the (unknown # of) steel, bulletproof checkpoint booths..?

• Or all the 'urgent' order for new riot gear?

• Then there's the leaked US Army training manual entitled 'Civil Disturbance Operations', which besides other things spells-out how to confiscate weapons, quell rioting, and even kill American citizens. 
  
  Among the many thought-provoking passages in the pamphlet are 'warning shot will not be fired' and one describing how 'political activists' will be 
  're-educated' into developing an 'appreciation of 
  U.S. policies'. 
  
  

  While the Army's willingness to obey illegal orders is in-doubt, another outfit to worry about would be FEMA, the federal emergency agency first established to aid the population and guarantee a continuation-of-government in the event of WWIII. 
  
  Even though that Soviet threat no longer exists, the powers of FEMA have been expanded radically, to the point where it is the only government entity with the potential ability to suspend the Constitution, confiscate property, and -yes- kill people as it sees fit... all it takes is the type of executive order President Obama is already oh-so-very fond of. 
  
  
  FEMA relocation schemes and large-scale (concentration) camp expansions are plenty disconcerting, too: the largest of these sites lays just outside Fairbanks, Alaska (our Siberia!)- featuring a gargantuan mental-health facility, it can hold up to two million detainees.
  
  Note that the Soviet Union often shipped recalcitrant, politically-irritating people off to the 'happy home'
  for fixing as well.
  
  
  And what's up with the Social Security Administration also stocking-up on
  hollow-tip rounds?
  
  
  OR the freaking National Weather Service acquiring the same type of high-powered ammo...?
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[Twinkie]

“isn’t a new development” - I’d be interested to know what were the past orders of ammunition by the government in the last 15 or 20 yrs.; that would clarify a lot and probably allay any possible panic thinking.

[Travis McGee]

Dear Mr. Security Agent: A letter to law enforcement concerning gun control

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2975695/posts

[Travis McGee]

Dear Mr. Security Agent: A letter to law enforcement concerning gun control

[appalachian_dweller]

I could be wrong, but JHP ammo is not used for training. JHP ammo is much more expensive and much more lethal.

It's my understanding that FMJ ammo is for training. It's much cheaper to shoot.

My read on this is that the JHP ammo is for duty rounds.

[Dick Bachert]

Yep, the Birchers were right all along. And that explains why the Marxist lapdog media savaged them then just as they savage those who want the truth about Obozo now.
Come the revolution, I vote we start with the media morons who’ve brought us to this point. That said, we must wait for the left to commence the festivities.

[TurboZamboni]

“O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, wherewith you could defend yourselves, are gone; and you have no longer an aristocratical, no longer a democratical spirit. Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation, brought about by the punishment of those in power, inflicted by those who had no power at all?” —Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788

[nothingnew]

hahahaha!

I would not be surprised if Biteme actually said that!

FMCDH(BITS)

[Georgia Girl 2]

“Further, a huge chunk of that will get eaten up by re-qualification and training.”

No it won’t. All of this ammo is +p critical defense frangible rounds. You don’t use this type of ammo for practice. Its expensive, hard on the weapon and will wear down the backstops at the range. This is not ammo you use to re-qualify. Anybody who does practice with this stuff is going to develop a Hell of a flinch.

This ammo is prohibited internationally for war but its OK for them to use it on us. Ain’t Amerika great!

[HughE]

One thing I was thinking is that drones could be a big threat to anyone opposing the government if it did come to a civil war. It might be worth trying to figure out some countermeasures and have them ready just in case.

The Iranians have successfully brought at least one drone down via GPS spoofing, so that is one thing to look at. GPS signals are very weak, so even quite a low powered transmitter might be able to disrupt drone operations over quite a wide area.

Also, drones operate via a satellite link, so maybe there’s some way of jamming that, or of taking the satellites offline. In a civil war, bringing down the government communication network would certainly tip the odds a long way in your favour anyway.

Hopefully it never comes to that, but there seems to be a mass drift towards totalitarianism underway throughout the western world at the moment, and IMHO it’s a good idea to keep hoping for the best but start preparing for the worst just in case!

[Chainmail]

Definitely an issue - but the government has also acquired immense new abilities to monitor all communications and activities. I sincerely hope that the majority of Americans who serve our government now would oppose actions against fellow citizens to support the Obama regime's unconstitutional directives but I don't know. There has been a steady change of culture where even the timid and harmless Tea Party is being depicted as a "terrorist organization", so who knows what actions will be followed or not. After all, Waco wasn't all that long ago.

We who believe in the citizen's absolute right to be armed and equal haven't done anything concrete to illuminate and clarify our position and most of us have spent most of our time scrambling to buy those things that we know will be unavailble in a matter of days. We should be networking to discuss our options, solidifying our trusted relationships and mobilizing - to Washington DC - to show the "representatives" how many of us there are. Just waiting for the next crooked election cycle is not going to help us. I have called the NRA and GOA to try to get a rally started and maybe if some of the rest of you get on them too, maybe something will get done. Just waiting to see what happens never works out well.