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To: Mr. Know It All
That's debatable.

No. It isn't. The particulars vary from culture to culture, but the end result is the same.

Is the US government more oppressive than either of these governments? If so, how?

Free speech. Freedom of economic liberty. Personal liberty. The number of laws and regulations being promulgated on annual basis with which we must content...

So arguably, yes. And getting worse daily.

A gun ban, magazine ban, attempt at universal registration... These are "last straws".

We've been given warnings. From the writings of Cicero to our own Founding Fathers. We can ignore them, or we can take their advice.

You want to ignore them... That's your right. It just doesn't make you "right".

91 posted on 01/08/2013 9:29:09 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Dead Corpse; justice14
I asked:Is the US government more oppressive than either of these governments? If so, how?
Free speech.

Speech is freer in Israel and Switzerland? In the US you can walk around adorned in swastikas proclaiming the awesomeness of Adolph Hitler. It will offend a lot of people, obviously, but in Israel or Switzerland, this will also land you in prison because it is illegal. How is that freer than the US?

Freedom of economic liberty. Personal liberty.

These are too vague to respond to.

A gun ban, magazine ban, attempt at universal registration... These are "last straws".

justice14 has pointed out that there is no visible movement on gun control in DC. The only viable suggestion I heard was a reinstatement of a previously-existing "assault weapons ban." I don't think I need to reiterate how stupid that law was (or would be), but I can factually point out that it was in force for many years without sparking a revolution.

I agree with some of your broad notions of liberty and the necessity to defend it, but I don't think this country is anywhere near the point where that is going to happen... and I'm pretty skeptical because I heard all this when Clinton was elected and none of it happened then, either.

Finally, I have yet to hear a realistic hypothetical scenario that ends in anything other than a Waco-style standoff and media circus. When we all "rise up," who are we supposed to follow? How do we know who is friend or foe? Should I run out and stage an armed takeover of the DMV? How is this supposed to work? I guess I could join a militia group of some kind, but who should we ally with when the SHTF? Why should we trust someone else's militia group?

98 posted on 01/08/2013 10:37:38 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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