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The “nobody needs” fallacy
olegvolk.net ^ | 6 January, 2013 | Oleg Volk

Posted on 01/07/2013 7:04:17 AM PST by marktwain

Does anyone really need old family snapshots? Pictures of your child as a baby, or of your grandparents on their honeymoon have no monetary worth and nearly no practical value. What can you do with them, besides looking every few years. Would you be OK with government taking away by an arbitrary decree?

We don’t need apples. Pears are close enough and can be used in the same recipes. Would you be OK with apple growing being prohibited?

Nobody needs to read Jonothan Swift. Should the books be destroyed for their supposed advocacy of cannibalism?

When we are robbed of snapshots, apples or books, we are robbed of more than sentimental value — we are robbed of free choice! Applied to guns, the claim that we don’t need them — though faulty in itself — is first and foremost ethically offensive to the core! To have a master decide if you may have a pear but not an apple, or a smoothbore shotgun instead of a rifle, or any other personal aspect of your life is the very definition of slavery. It’s the major component in learned helplessness. When our government officials behave as domestic abusers, it’s time to start wondering why.

The gun banners are right on one thing: weapons are a special case, just not the way they think. I may have a gun that I do not need. It could be less than a wallhanger, just something taking up space in the attic. But that lack of purpose goes away the second somebody wants to rob me of it — defending against brigandage becomes that gun’s primary purpose.


TOPICS: Education; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; magazines; needs; secondamendment; volk
People do not need fire extinquishers ... except when they do.
1 posted on 01/07/2013 7:04:28 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

How about: Nobody needs 24/7 media coverage of these mass killings. It is very dangerous and leads to the copycat effect where unbalanced people are given an incentive to kill masses of innocents in order to become famous.

While many statists would agree to limit the First Amendment here, many others woud see the point.


2 posted on 01/07/2013 7:12:51 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Nobody needs health insurance, until they do.

Nobody needs liability insurance, until they do.

And guess what? Our govt. says we have to buy those.

Why is this so hard for people?


3 posted on 01/07/2013 7:16:06 AM PST by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: marktwain

I can certainly see the enviros jumping on the argument with a “no family needs more than one car” position.


4 posted on 01/07/2013 7:22:44 AM PST by circlecity
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To: marktwain

The Founding Fathers could not possibly foresee high speed printing presses.

Therefore nobody needs a high speed printing press.

A single page, manual press will do.


5 posted on 01/07/2013 7:29:16 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Chasaway
Liberals have a mental defect giving them an inability to think clearly past what they 'feel' is right.


6 posted on 01/07/2013 7:31:29 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: marktwain

Liberals bitch about killing the trees, yet, their favorite hangouts are bookstores with coffee shops.


7 posted on 01/07/2013 7:45:03 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad
Liberals bitch about killing the trees, yet, their favorite hangouts are bookstores with coffee shops

Yes but the haed left liberals don't actually buy the books - they just sit and use them for free. that's why Borders Bookstore no longer exists.
8 posted on 01/07/2013 8:09:52 AM PST by bagadonutz (knuckledragger)
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To: bagadonutz

And why one of their most favorite hangouts in Denver, the Tattered Cover, is dying. If it wasn’t for the attached coffee shop it would have been a goner long ago.


9 posted on 01/07/2013 8:13:01 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

In Austin (the liberal/socialist mecca of Texas) they decided to clear cut thousands of trees in order to install, get this, a solar energy station.

Yep, they is some real smart cookies them greenies.


10 posted on 01/07/2013 8:18:48 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: marktwain

There is a distinction between things that are needed because they are necessary for survival or for living a life proper to a rational being and things that are simply wanted for whatever reason. Something may not be needed but could still be wanted.Everyone has their own hierarchy of values that they use to make decisions about what they want to gain or keep.In a free society it is up to the individual to decide for himself what values he want to pursue, in what order, and how.


11 posted on 01/07/2013 9:12:00 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: All

It’s called the bill of rights

Not the bill of needs.


12 posted on 01/07/2013 9:49:53 AM PST by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: kennyboy509

From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs. -Marx

When you surrender to the idea that someone can dictate or even suggest your needs, and how to apply your abilities you are in essence a slave.

Marx just made it sound noble.


13 posted on 01/07/2013 9:13:00 PM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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