[WhiskeyX]

Obviously, you don't know anything about Senator Patty Murray or Senator Maria Cantwell. Murray is a former school teacher type and a Marxist socialist type. Yes, so is Hillary Clinton, but Murray is one of the people who helped to engage in the dirty political tricks which stole the Democratic nomination from Hillary and elect Obama. Murray is one of the key hardcore supporters of Obama. I've some personal experience with Murray on someone else’s business, and I know for a fact that you would no more expect any help from her on the eligibility issue than you would from Obama. It really is just that bad. It is this loyalty to Obama which brought the chairmanship of the Democrat committee responsible for recruiting more Democrats to the U.S. Senate.

Cantwell is just about as bad as Murray in her loyalty to Obama. If you were to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that Obama was an illegal alien, she would be at the forefront of the crowd defending Obama’s human right to be the first illegal alien POTUS. It really is just that bad.

Our Congressman is useless on the issue. I had a conversation with him at my front door one day. He went from being a pest to being unable to leave fast enough on the first hint of the eligibility issue being raised.

These politicians are extremely hostile to the eligibility issue, and that is known from direct experience and not just assumptions. Nothing less than their removal from office will be effective in ending their opposition to the eligibility issue.

[butterdezillion]

Yes, I know. There are people about whom even the Lord says you have to just shake the dust off your feet and not waste time on them. Too many others who might at least give you a fair hearing. What we need to do is find out who they are - because as I just put in my last comment, Obama’s Constitutional ability to “act as President” can still be challenged on 20th Amendment grounds between the certification of the electoral vote and the inauguration.

If we shake the dust off our feet and just concentrate on the efforts that can actually bear fruit, we can still get a case with standing to force the records to be submitted as evidence and be subject to the Federal Rules of Evidence (meaning that the original paper records, microfilms, and computer transaction logs would have to be available for forensic and legal examination.

And that really has to do with the trolls here too. A lot of stuff is intended to just be distraction. It’s not time to debate the ins and outs with people who never do anything but troll. It’s time for those who recognize what’s going on to combine their networks, know what they are asking and why, and git ‘r done.

We need a non-public avenue to strategize about where best to put our energies. If anybody is interested, Freepmail and we can figure something out. If anybody has any particular skill in networking or mobilizing, or has any valuable contacts or networks that would be critical. Or if they are good at bringing people on board - the people persons - that also would be really critical. Those are skills I don’t have so I need somebody to step up and lead.